Universal puts Dark Tower production on hold

May 6, 2011   By: Michael | #Budget  #Rumors  #Universal  #Warner  

Just as production on the Dark Tower finally gets underway, all our hopes could once again be dashed. There’s a rumor doing the rounds that Universal Studios is about to drop the whole project due to budget concerns!

Although Universal and Ron Howard’s Imagine Entertainment are denying the rumor, Mike Fleming (Deadline) believes there’s truth behind it as all the pre-production staff have been told to stop work. Talk between all parties is ongoing but only time will tell if they’ll work out how to proceed. With all tools downed it’s hard to believe the September start will go ahead as planned, regardless of what happens next.

As we know, the Dark Tower is a very ambitious project, perhaps even more so than the Lord of the Ring trilogy. Production is set to be three feature length films, sandwiching two TV miniseries. Ron Howard is to be at the helm and Javier Bardem has been chosen to play the lead role of Roland Deschain.

There’s still hope though as Fleming believes that if Universal does pull out, the whole production could be put on turnaround and be taken on by “Warner Bros, where [Akiva] Goldsman’s Weed Road has its deal” — ‘turnaround’ is where the producer (Imagine Entertainment) can shop it to another studio, either in its entirety or in partnership with Universal Studios.

The path to the Dark Tower was never going to be an easy one, but let’s hope one of the studios has enough faith in Stephen King’s imagination to take it through to the end.

UPDATE: the latest news is that Universal are now pushing back the start of filming to February 2012, and are also wanting to reduce production costs. We have to presume they’ll go ahead with this only if they’re able to get the costs down.

I am a little worried that the reduction in costs will also mean a reduction in detail and coverage Ron Howard will be able to bring to the adaptation. Only time will tell.

If Universal do wish to be part of this project they’ll need to get a move on; they only have until July, that’s just 6 weeks away, to give this the “green light”. If they haven’t done so by then, the rights will revert back to the filmmakers and Stephen King. Chop chop, guys, the world is moving on.

203 responses

Oh Discordia I am saddened by this. I hope they are able to continue with the project, or another studio picks it up. I was really looking forward to seeing it come to film and television. I hope someone realizes how stupid it would be to drop this project. Not only are there millions of fans looking forward to this, but they would also make a large amount of money from this project. If no other reason persuades them, I hope they will at least do it for the money they would make. I would hate to see it dropped again. I have really been looking forward to this.

Aimee – May 6th, 2011
As long as they get the whole thing right and true to the books, they have my blessing to take next ten years just to actually start making the films.

Ari – May 9th, 2011
You are right Aimee…oh Discordia. Let’s all hope this is going to calm down and that production is actually going to happen. All this past great news, and then the “brick wall”. BAM!! I will be following most closely as I am sure all of us DT fans will be doing. We’ll just have to wait and see if this info is true. Long days and pleasant nights.

Gunslinger9teen – May 9th, 2011
@Gunslinger9teen I am keeping my fingers crossed that they will once again begin work on this project. I have been following very closely. Not just this site but many others. I have to say when I heard they were making these into films, I was very excited. However I was also very apprehensive. In the back of my mind I kept waiting for the brick wall. I may be the only one thinking this, but if production continues, I feel we will be in for many more setbacks :( Long days and pleasant nights to you as well.

Aimee – May 9th, 2011
Sounds to me like the work of the crimson king

Noel – May 10th, 2011
I, as much as anyone, would love to see these books adapted to film, but I want to make sure they are done right. I definitely don’t have confidence in Universal after they killed ‘At the Mountains of Madness’. I would love to see Warner Bros take the reins and give it a Harry Potter-type budget to make sure that this is done right. I don’t want to see budget constraints ruin the adaptation. Who’s with me?

JKnaak – May 10th, 2011
I definitely agree with you JKnaak. I as I agree with Noel. Work of the Crimson King, I tell you. I am such a DT freak that these are the only books (besides the graphic novels and the concordance) that I have read in the last 20 years. I want them made, but made right. I worked on “Far and Away” in Montana back in the late 80’s, and I feel that Mr. Howard is the man and his production company to make this happen correctly. I feel that Ka wills it. Long days and pleasant nights DT freaks.

Gunslinger9teen – May 10th, 2011
What a bummer. After all the crap that hollywood does green light you would think this would be a no- brainer. Kings adaptations whether good or bad have always made money. Just goes to show that hollywood has no clue these days.

Pokes23 – May 10th, 2011
@Pokes23 I completely agree. I mean even the Langoliers made money. It would be ignorant of them not to make these into films. Yes it would take a lot of money to make them, but they would get so much more back from dark tower freaks like us. I agree with Gunslinger9teen I think Ka wills it, and it will be done. The question is how long do we have to wait?

Aimee – May 11th, 2011
@Aimee Well you know how we DT freaks are…we’ll wait as long as it takes. Hell, I might even be one of those fans that wait in line for 6 months.(flashback to the “Star Wars” geeks from a few years ago). yeah, it would be nice , but I’m not 20 with no job or responsibilities. Wish I was. I enjoy coming to this site at breaks from work and discussing what I love with other DT freaks. Talk to you all soon. Long days and pleasant nights. Long live the Eld.

Gunslinger9teen – May 11th, 2011
@Gunslinger9teen, I wish I could wait in line for 6 months lol :) I told my husband I would camp out overnight, but no longer than that. It is nice to know there are other Dark Tower freaks like me to talk to. My husband has never read the books and he is so tired of hearing me talk about them lol :) If you ever wanna talk on facebook hit me up :) May you have twice the number.

Aimee – May 11th, 2011
@Aimee Ya’ know I did facebook for a bit, then realized I was spending waaaaayy too much time there. But I am always open to discussing anything Dark Tower. We’ll have to figure out a way to reach each other on-line. Almost everyone I bring up “The Tower” to hasn’t the foggiest idea what I am talking about. I have a 2 1/2 year old son who’s middle name is Deschain. Yeah…I am a DT freak.lol Thankee Sai.

Gunslinger9teen – May 11th, 2011
I am disappointed as well but I disagree with one common sentiment in these posts. I hope they do not decide to make the film solely because they will make a lot of money. Historically when films are made for the express purpose of making money, the central ideas and themes of a movie are often perverted in the name of shameless pandering. If they don’t want to do it then fine. At least the world I have imagined in my head while reading these books time and again will not bet ruined. Don’t get me wrong I would love to see these movies get made but sometimes I wonder if everything has to be made into a movie. Maybe those of us who are willing to put in the time to read these epic novels are entitled to something that the rest of the world is not.

Wes – May 11th, 2011
@Wes It’s not about these movies making money to me. I have never been a person that believes that a movie is good based on it’s financial gain. I, like other DT freaks, just want the movies/tv series to be the best than can and that they follow the story as closely as possible. We already know that not every little bit is going to be included. As avid readers, we all have certain parts that stick with us. Our own mental movie, if you will. In my opinion, I want to be able to say “ you have to go see this flick, it’s f@*#ing awesome.”

Gunslinger9teen – May 11th, 2011
@Gunslinger9teen, I wanted to name my 3 year old Roland but my husband would have freaked, that is so cool his middle name is Deschain. @Wes I also hope they do not make them solely for monetary gain, however I am pretty sure how much money they are going to be making is the first priority for them. I do hope they stick very close to the novels and as gunslinger9teen said there are certain parts that stick with us. And I have read them so many times that I do have a mental movie already. I am trying very hard to get my husband to read the books, hopefully before the movies come out I can convince him. Or at the very least to watch the films. He said he would give the first one a shot, and then maybe watch the rest.

Aimee – May 11th, 2011
@wes I hate to break it to ya mate but when it comes down to the likes of Universal its ALWAYS about the money, 99% of the films made today are made because someone thinks they will make money out of them, thankfully we have directors and actors out there who push good films ahead and if it wasn’t for that, then we would not see half the good films we see.

Even passion doesn’t always work which is evidenced with del Torro’s passion for making ‘At The Mountains Of Madness’, universal still turn him down, lets just hope Howard is fighting hard for ‘The Dark Tower’!

@gunslinger9teen How are you mate? hope all is well :)

stonie104 – May 12th, 2011
Unfortunately, in this day and age, everything is about the money. The only reason this would be made into a movie is to make money. That is really all the studios and producers care about. Fortunately, we have great directors, writers, actors, cinematographers, and others who are passionate about their work and want to truly create something great. These are the people I stand behind. No matter what happens, we will always have King’s universe that he created and it will always have a special place in my heart. If this gets adapted, it will be a separate entity and not really effect the original written work.

JKnaak – May 12th, 2011
Thanks all for the lessons. I guess I could have expressed myself better previously. I am not naive enough to think that movies get made for any other reason other than money. I am a firefighter/paramedic and if I didn’t get paid, I would be something else. My point was, if studio executives look at this story and feel that it is not exciting enough or doesn’t make sense to them (how many do you think have read any of the books? Did you see the Today show when King was interviewed about the last book? They didn’t know what it was about only that Stephen King had written it so they had to get him on the show) they may feel the need to tinker too much with it, to make it sell. Hopefully a significant amount of creative control will lie with the creator of these stories. No one on here can say they never saw at least one movie adaptation that didn’t butcher the original story. And yes probably one of them that comes to mind was A Stephen King story. Can’t wait for the movie. Hope they don’t cast Chris Rock as the man in black. He would sell a lot of tickets.

Wes – May 12th, 2011
@Stonie104 My ka-mate from across the big pond. Doing alright Stonie. Glad to see your name and comments here, once again. @Wes That Chris Rock comment was F*#@ing funny. Let’s just wish on the Great Turtle that they don’t throw some comedian in for comic relief.

I really enjoy our DT community. You folks are great.

Gunslinger9teen – May 12th, 2011
Hey I just realized I made the 19th comment. Cool. I am definitely a DT freak.lol

Gunslinger9teen – May 12th, 2011
NO! I really really hope this isn’t the case. I always thought that this series would make an amazing film adaptation (in the right hands of course). I was also looking forward to seeing the rest of the world react to the story. There are many folks out there that would have been exposed to the tale for the first time… but, if I had to guess, Universal is second guessing just how much money there is to be made off of the project. They may be concerned about their returns given that, in my experience, Dark Tower fans are abound, but also a special niche of folks.

The Brambler – May 12th, 2011
What a tease this on and off and on again, Why wouldnt they make it a series on like HBO or Starz, wouldnt this be better suited considering the length. I also agree with everyone its not about the money to us DT fans its so see our story in living color. To see if our visions of Roland become real. There will be water if Ka wills it. I have read these books over and over andi will continue to read then the rest of my life movie or no movie. it has touched me deeply as it has with all of us. It might just be better left in our dreams then be disapointed. May the White live on in all of us

Tommy D – May 12th, 2011
@Wes I have seen my fair share of terrible adaptations, one of which was directed by our own Ron Howard, Angels & Demons. What a train-wreck that was! Maybe it was or was not his fault, but I definitely don’t want the same thing to happen to DT.

@Tommy D I would love to see HBO take over this project. They definitely have that commitment to quality and faithfulness to the source material that you see, for example, in Game of Thrones (my 2nd favorite universe!)

JKnaak – May 13th, 2011
I love the DT series.

But I sincerely hope this particular version dies completely. Ron Howard and Akiva Goldman are the exact WRONG people to be making this series. Neither of them will do the dark segments of the story justice. And the casting so far was absolutely terrible.

I hope this project dies dies dies and then someone competent IN THIS STYLE OF STORY takes it over. It’s not that I hate Howard or Goldman–but they’re WRONG for this story.

Jake – May 13th, 2011
I have to agree maybe a long drawn out cable series would be the way to go at this point. Game of thrones has been awesome and with the right people on board and same attention to detail a Dark Tower series could be awesome as well. I also think there’s alot more of us DT freaks than you might think so you would think something will get done eventually.

Pokes23 – May 14th, 2011
@Jake I completely agree I think Ron Howard is wrong for this project. I doubt they have even read the books.

Aimee – May 14th, 2011
Whether Ron Howard is the right director to take on this project may be debatable, but I seriously doubt he would even consider taking on a project if this magnitude without having first read the books. And, although one may question the quality of this particular movie, Willow did have a few creepy-ass parts done well… just saying.

Traci – May 14th, 2011
So Universal is cutting the budget now? Akiva Is re-writing the script to maintain a cheaper price tag? Gods, my hopes for this project being good are slowly dying. Please let me be wrong about that, but this sounds like it’s taking a turn for the worse. Sacrificing content and quality to stay on budget…19.

Towerjunkie311 – May 14th, 2011
@towerjunkie311 Read the same thing, dissapointed as well, this also means a delay to production so fall is out of the question, and because of the delay Bardem could pull out…… bloody budget cuts!!!!!!!

stonie104 – May 14th, 2011
If they’re not willing to spend the money then ship it to another studio. How about fox? Atleast there wouldn’t be any copyright problems with the sneetches! Oh but then there’s the emerald palace from wizard and glass…maybe that’s part of the problem, Howard might be getting overwhelmed by the sheer magnitude of the project.If they can’t do it right then they shouldn’t do it at all.

Pokes23 – May 14th, 2011
As i look at the comments again about budgets and money, I hate to bring this up but mister King must be very wealthy, could he not be more of a influence in this project it would make me feel alot better if he was there over seeing his Katet

Tommy D – May 15th, 2011
@tommyd Its usual for the writer to get paid for his work being made into film not the other way round mate, King is an executive producer on the project if im not mistaken and will be helping a great deal, just not with money….. were not talking about a few million here and a few million there, your probably looking at in excess of 100 million budget cut, King may be desperate to see his work on the big screen but probably not that desperate :)

stonie104 – May 15th, 2011
@Pokes23, you bring up a good point I never thought of. The rights to use things such as sneetches and the emerald palace. I agree that if they can’t do it right, then they shouldn’t do it all. @Stonie104, I agree that is is probably in the excess of 100 million dollars, and that is a very large amount for a studio to spend to make this film. I’m sure Mr. King is using his influence on this project, but at this point that simply may not be enough.

Aimee – May 16th, 2011
It seem’s the consensus is make it right…or don’t make it at all. (or at least make it for cable TV). You know I wake up everyday and say “Dear Gods, please let it be done well” This anticipation is tremendous. Wonder what Sai King think’s when he awakens in the morning.

Gunslinger9teen – May 16th, 2011
I say we start a campaign to get Darren Aronofsky or Chris Nolan to take over the project!

JKnaak – May 16th, 2011
How about Guierllmo Del Toro. He has a very twisted and dark directing style. To be honest, I don’t have the foggiest idea who is a decent director as of late. Let’s see where this project goes in the next few weeks and months and hope,HOPE for the best.

Gunslinger9teen – May 16th, 2011
@Gunslinger9teen I think Guierllmo Del Toro is a great director. I think he would do a good job. A much better choice than Ron Howard in my opinion. I also don’t really know very many directors. I hope that someone important who is “working” on these films are reading these comments and taking them to heart.

Aimee – May 16th, 2011
@Aimee Not Bloody Likely!!! I want these to follow the books, not an adaptation of someones idea of the books. In my opinion, I think we (DT fans) are going to be more apt to really examine these movies and series. Definitely more so than the LOTR fans. Don’t get me wrong, I am a fan of the LOTR movies and book, it’s just a feeling I have.

Gunslinger9teen – May 16th, 2011
@Gunslinger9teen I will definitely be criticizing every little detail lol, but for the people who haven’t read the books they will be none the wiser. My husband said he doesn’t want to watch them with me because all I am going to do is complain about what they messed up and how much they ruined it lol

Aimee – May 16th, 2011
I have to agree with what a few other people have mentioned….HBO should take over! Game of Thrones is spectacular, and they are going all out on locations around the world to give it the right feel. They could also make it a series over several seasons, giving it more time for details and story lines. HBO would also allow the series to be as “graphic” as it needs to be.

deflep71 – May 17th, 2011
Hello fellow DT freaks! I am new to this site, but have read all the comments. Lively discussion here, you folken say true, I say thankya.
I too am torn between wanting a quality project and just getting it going. Oh, a-yuh. Having read these books over and over, I’ll be like Aimee…noticing any deviance from the books. (Also my wife hasn’t read them, but our adult son has, so she gets it from both of us) I’ll be watching, and commenting as we all watch the progress (or lack thereof) in bringing this series to the screen.
In the meantime, we are well-met in the House of the Rose, say Gawd-bomb!

WillDearborn – May 18th, 2011
@WillDearborn Welcome. I feel sorry for your wife lol :) We are very well met. Long days and pleasant nights.

Aimee – May 18th, 2011
@WillDearborn Welcome and say Thank ya’. Yes, we are well met. Welcome and enjoy. Long days and pleasant nights.

Gunslinger9teen – May 18th, 2011
?.-Does anybody remember a short comic called “The Rook”. It was from a Graphic magazine called “Uncle Eerie? Very much a feel of Roland.

Gunslinger9teen – May 18th, 2011
To all DT freaks, Bing “The Rook”, then go to wikipedia and check out the cover of the magazine. Tell me if you see Roland in that cover. Because it looks just like A modern drawing of Roland. Thankee Sai’s

Gunslinger9teen – May 18th, 2011
@Gunslinger9teen, the resemblance is crazy. It does look a lot like Roland.

Aimee – May 18th, 2011
If i am correct, I remember “The Lord of the Rings” was denied by some film studio as well before Jackson took it to New Line. Clearly that place made a HUGE mistake. Hey Opie, remember there are other worlds than these.

todashdarkness – May 19th, 2011
Hey guys I just got done reading the graphic novels (the borders by my house just went out of biz, so I picked them all up for 80 bucks awesome deal!) and I was hoping you might be able to help me with a question. I’m reading the entire series again so I decided to read the GNs between books 4 and 5 and I just read the argument at the beginning of book 5 where sai King basically straight tells you that Marten and John Farson are the same guy.But in the GNs they are obviously two different people. So I guess my question is what gives? Are they two separate individuals or is this more Darkman trickery? Anyone out there know?

Pokes23 – May 19th, 2011
@stonie104

i undestand what you say thankee Sai, but this is so important, well to me atleast. I guess he has poored it out over the years on paper and that is enough for him and we have all met him well for it. so i cry your pardon mister king.

Tommy D – May 19th, 2011
@Pokes23 It’s dark work from the Crimson King. I believe they are one in the same. If I’m wrong, please DT Freaks, don’t hang me high! Say Thank ya’

Gunslinger9teen – May 19th, 2011
@gunslinger9teen- thankee sai. It’s true you never see the good man’s face in the graphic novels so anything is possible. Dark sorcery indeed. Say thankya big-big!

Pokes23 – May 19th, 2011
I only hope that when they do release the final cut, that it doesn’t leave me hating it. I can handle a little disappointmen as long as it all turns out to be good in the end. We all know that movie adaptations are never better than the originals, and we should try to keep in mind how difficult it is going to be for them to bring this !!Grand Masterpiece!! of a series adaptation to the big screen. Whoever “dares” take on this challenge has a lot resting on them from both sides of the table, DT freaks and the studios. We DT freaks are most likely going to feel cheaped out one way or another. It doesn’t bother me how bad they butcher it, as long as it’s legit. I dont want any added material. I know that if its legit it will be good in my mind, I loved Kingdom Hospital!! Just ‘cause of the Dark Tower refferences. I’m a huge King fan, I havn’t hated a single adaptation of his yet.

Pleasant Nights.

RoontTwinnerDave – May 19th, 2011
@RoontTwinnerDave I haven’t been too disappointed by any of the adaptations yet. I have to see Kingdom Hospital, but do plan on watching it. I definitely agree that they should not add anything. I do understand how huge this project really is, but I would rather wait a long time for them to get it right, then to hurry up and it turns out horrible. Maybe Universal just isn’t the right studio for this project. They need one that will understand how enormous this project is, and are willing to spend the funds to make it, and make it well.

Aimee – May 20th, 2011
Does anyone remember the mini-series “Golden years” ?. If I recall correctly, it was about an old man and his wife growing younger. I know Sai King wrote a short story and the screenplay. It was a most interesting show. Also here’s a TV tidbit. Quantum Leap had an episode were, at the end, we find out the teenage kid turns out to be Stephen King. Thought that was a bit of alright. Long days , pleasant nights and great Friday.

Gunslinger9teen – May 20th, 2011
@Gunslinger9teen I have Golden Years in my netflix queue haven’t watched it yet, will try to get to it this weekend.

Aimee – May 20th, 2011
Hello friends, I have been a DT fan almost my whole life, I was 5 when I was first introdused to Roland. I like all of the other DT fans around the world would be willing to start a line right now at our local theater, however as we all know that Ka is not always nice “Gready ol KA how I hate it!” I only hope that as the weel of Ka turns for me it will let me be in the country when the movie finaly dose come out. See I am a gunslinger of sorts, I am a soldier, and as such I have missed so many of the things that I like over the years. Like the release of the last DT book and I am sure the next DT book. Well enough of my rambling. I just wanted to have my little part of this conversation.

Thankee sais, LONG DAYS AND PLEASANT NIGHTS TO ALL!

CuthbretAllgood – May 22nd, 2011
@CuthbertALLgood Welcome we are well met. Long Days and Pleasant Nights :)

Aimee – May 22nd, 2011
i for one will buy tickets, and merch for these movies so please make them.

if not can we at least get a full budget anime of the whole story? dare i say that may even be BETTER??!!

the man in blank – May 22nd, 2011
@ the man in black, I to have always thaught that the only ture way to adapt the DT books to screen is to animate it. That way, it could be 100% accurate. With that said I would also love to see it as a real life movie as well.
@Aimee, thankee sai, and yes we are all well met. LONG DAYS AND PLEASANT NIGHTS TO ALL.

CuthbretAllgood – May 23rd, 2011
I can respect people’s opinion about making it an anime. I would watch it, but would definitely prefer live action. @the man in black I would also purchase the merch and tickets :)

Aimee – May 23rd, 2011
Ugh…anime? Sorry guys but that’s the worst idea I’ve heard. Roland draws his gun while speed lines rail behind him? Sounds cheesy doesn’t it? Let’s face facts, there’s no way to make movies 100% accurate to the source materials (as good as the Lotr trilogy and harry potter movies are, there’s plenty in the books that didn’t make it to the screen ) but with the right guy writing the screenplays and the right director they could make an awesome set of movies that would please us DT freaks and the casual movie goer alike. I understand there’s alot of anime fans but there’s no way that wouldn’t be cheesy as all hell and todays hollywood SFX can do almost anything animation can. The trick is getting the right ka-tet together to pull it off and then we will have our Tower. Long days and Pleasant nights :-)

Pokes23 – May 23rd, 2011
@Pokes23 Well you basically said what I was trying to say nicely lol :) I agree, I think it would be a horrible idea to make it into an anime film.

Aimee – May 23rd, 2011
@aimee-I guess I was a little harsh on the anime idea, cry your pardon sais it was just my opinion.But hey if anybody is looking for cool DT stuff google the dark tower compendium store. They have a ton of cool stuff like t-shirts, hats, necklaces, etc.

Pokes23 – May 23rd, 2011
@Pokes23, you have no reason to cry my pardon I thought it was funny :) I will definitely google it.

Aimee – May 24th, 2011
@Pokes23, I deffinately see your point, and by no means should you have to cry anyones pardon, all of us DT freaks are in the same boat. We are traking our TOWER, and no matter what the out come, I atleast, can be content with what is out there for DT now. Eventuly, if KA wills it, we have our EPIC in all of the glory that we have emagined. Untill then LONG DAYS AND PLEASANT NIGHTS TO ALL!

CuthbertAllgood – May 24th, 2011
An anime version could be good as long as it’s not Pokemon-like where people’s eyes take up half their head. Something like the old Spawn anime would work. (That one sure beat the crap out of the live action movie)

The Walkin' Dude – May 24th, 2011
I think that an anime TV show could be very cool done in the right way. I would prefer feature film, but there is some really stylized animation out there. I agree that it could come off super-cheesy, but I think there is some real potential there. As long as it is a faithful adaptation, I would be happy. Who could make a good R-rated anime TV show?

JKnaak – May 24th, 2011
@JKnaak Mad House or TMS Entertainment, Anime if done right would be epic, a recent series done by Mad House is amazing look up… Shigurui: Death Frenzy…. EPIC!!

If it aint Japaneese Anime then forget about it :)

stonie104 – May 24th, 2011
Maybe im a little late to the party but I watched the Mist last night for the first time since it was in the theatre and I can’t believe I never noticed that Tom Janes character is painting the movie poster for the Dark Tower at the beginning of the movie! Does anybody know who the actual artist is? Its a beautiful painting i’d love to find a copy if its possible.

Pokes23 – May 24th, 2011
@Pokes23 If I am correct it is Drew Struzan.

Aimee – May 24th, 2011
@Pokes23, here is the link for his painting

http://www.drewstruzan.com/illustrated/portfolio/?fa=medium&gid=794&mp&gallerystart=1&pagestart=1&type=mp&gs=1

Aimee – May 24th, 2011
DT Freaks, one and all: Every time I read the ‘The books”, I have a great set of motion pictures in my ye’ old noggin. And none have ever been animated. My opinion…keep it reel. Please don’t get me wrong, I enjoy some anime and I am a BIG BIG animation fan. I would be quite disappointed if they gave up live action for animation. I am really interested in seeing who plays our most beloved literature favorites. @Cuthberallgood. Welcome Sai and we are well met. Long days and pleasant nights.

Hi Stonie and Aimee, my DT freaks ka-tet

Gunslinger9teen – May 24th, 2011
@aimee-thankee sai you are correct. You can actually own the original for gasp 110,000 bucks. Couldn’t find a copy though. @gunslinger9teen- I too am a fan of animation but I have to agree not for the Tower. The scene that keeps popping up in my head is the monster in the house during Jake’s drawing. It would be beautiful animation but not near as powerful as it would be as a live action sequence. That would be one of those movie moments where you’d be out of breath just watching it.

Pokes23 – May 24th, 2011
@Pokes23 Yes Sai, very intense part of the book. Always has been a very vivid image in my head through all “The books”. For some reason the movie “Monster House” (which is animated) kind of pops into my head when talking about the Jake/killer house sequence. lol

Gunslinger9teen – May 24th, 2011
@Pokes23, no problem love to help out my fellow DT freaks :) Really wish I had an extra 110,000 laying around lol :)

Aimee – May 24th, 2011
@ CuthbertAllgood: Thankee-sai for your service to our country. If not for folken like you, we could not be sitting here discussing things like this, our worries would be far bigger! I am on the side of NOT to do this in anime or any other form of animation. They tried that at first with the Lord of the Rings, and it sucked (of course, animation has progressed since then, cry yer pardon). The finished product of the Lord of the Rings, while not “perfect”, was awfully darn good! And I would vastly prefer live people and live action. There is obviously no way the DT series could be made in only 3 movies, do ya. The idea of a tv series bridging the movies might work, if they don’t skimp too much on the budget there. If done in movie format only, it would take at least six…IMHO you could condense the first book a lot. In my mind’s eye, I want to see the Gunslingers and the Sisters of Oriza ambush the wolves…maybe my favotite scene.

@Aimee…if you want to discuss this on FaceBook, I am there pretty much nightly. Send a friend request…I am Jeffrey Jenkins…the one in Memphis, Tennessee. Long days and pleasant nights, my friends!

WillDearborn – May 25th, 2011
@Pokes23 I think you are right. There are certain scenes, such as Jake’s drawing, that would probably look super cheesy as an animated segment. I would definitely prefer live-action with the quality of Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings. However, at this point, I would love to just see anything that is well-made, faithful to the story and characters, and successful enough to see the entire series adapted. Just don’t make anything comes off terrible and unsuccessful because there will be no studio that will want to touch the material if that happens.

JKnaak – May 25th, 2011
Just found this online.

Ron Howard said “We had to pull back to our September start date due to budget delays and ongoing story development and logistical issues, but Dark Tower is moving forward,” Howard said. “We’re thinking of starting in early spring now. I can’t really say who’ll be in it yet, but Javier Bardem has shown a great deal of interest. We’ll know by the end of the summer, when our flashing green light goes solid.” The project would start with a feature film, followed by six hours of TV content, starring the same actors as in the movie. “There are elements of the Dark Tower saga that are more personal and can be best dealt with on television,” Howard continued. “TV allows you to roll out details of the characters in a more methodical way.”

Aimee – May 25th, 2011
@aimee-good info:-) it sounded alot to me like opie might just be holding out hope that its still gonna happen. I hope he speaks the truth though because I’m still real excited about the movie/TV approach, sounds awesome. Gonna keep my fingers crossed.

Pokes23 – May 25th, 2011
it’s the man in “blank” people ;) but yes u get the metaphor.

i understand the doubt with Anime if you are not a fan of Anime. but i feel that that doubt is just as strong regarding live action.

however, Anime breaks rules film can’t break with limited budget for one.
also, have u seen the Vampire Hunter D remake, or FF7 Advent Children? they are beautiful…tho rushed audio/voice over dub which will always be a hang up with Anime translating to USA just for culture/tradition, and simply language differences.

I still stand by it tho, that i believe the true masters of REAL Japanese animation could be the only team that captures the darkness of Mid-World and it’s characters.

but, i would still RATHER a film trilogy and tv show IF DONE RIGHT without limits. and i MUST say after finding such a PERFECT actor to play Roland…(vast majority loved the pick right away)…you would think this HAS to come thru so i havn’t lost hope yet!

man in blank – May 25th, 2011
Maybe this is a blessing in disguise. As much as I have loved the idea of a Dark Tower movie/tv series, I was NOT happy hearing that Javier Bardem would play Roland. Sorry, he’s great actor no question, but as far as playing Roland? No thank you. He just isn’t Roland. Viggo Mortensen would have been so far beyond perfect for the role of our favorite Gunslinger. I would also love to see Justin Chatwin as Eddie Dean and Zoe Saldana as Odetta/Detta Holmes. But I have been so completely terrified that they were/are going to mess this movie thing up. The Dark Tower Saga is my favorite books ever and the thought of them either leaving too much out of the movies or messing the story up or both have kept me very apprehensive about the whole thing. So maybe this hault in production is a good thing. Part of me wishes they would just leave well enough alone. Say Thank Ya.

Jessie James – May 26th, 2011
@Aimee WOW!! Kudos and Thankee Sai for that updated info. Maybe you should be an investigative writer for this site. lol Did you notice that they said Javier Bardem is interested in the role, but not excited to be in it. get my drift. But let’s not get back into that whole “best actor for the role” thing. Very excited upon receiving this info. Long days and pleasant nights to our Ka-tet.

Gunslinger9teen – May 26th, 2011
@Gunslinger9teen and Pokes23, you are very welcome. I always try to check out other sites for info, because sometimes they have info that isn’t on here. Yes let’s no backtrack to the best actor for the role. Long days and pleasant nights to our Ka-tet :) Will post more if I find anything else.

Aimee – May 26th, 2011
i hope this goes through ron howard is a great directer although i dont think bardeim is correct for roland viggo mortesion is a better choice and i think sean william scott or paul rudd would be great for eddie

josh – May 27th, 2011
oh bardeim is roland without a shadow of a doubt. viggo is a horrible actor are you really serious? anyway, to each his own.

man in blank – May 27th, 2011
I have to agree with the man in blank, mortensen isn’t that great of an actor. The LOTR trilogy was probably the most critically acclaimed series of all time to never have a best actor nod. Viggo also just isn’t gritty enough to play Roland. Bardem is an excellent choice because he has the acting chops to pull it off. All Viggo has going for him are the eyes. Thank the gods for contact lenses.

Pokes23 – May 27th, 2011
Commala-come ki There’s a time to live and one to die. With your back againsy the final wall Ya’ gotta let the bullets fly.

Commala-come ki! Let the bullets fly! Don’t ‘ee mourn for me, my lads When it comes my day to die.

Jake and Peres’ entrance into The Dixie Pig.

Gunslinger9teen – May 27th, 2011
This movie absolutly neds to be made. I cannot beileive it has taken so long to get started. I do however beileve that Gerard Butler would be a much better Roland. However when I was reading the series I always pictured Tom Cruise as Roland. I hope they don’t drop this project. With all the crap they put out in theaters these day’s It would be nice to actually be able to go see somthing that you really wont be able to take your eyes off of! Good luck Ron Howard i’m sure this will be your best venture yet.

Sue – May 27th, 2011
well i give up on who should play Roland really, i think we will be lucky if we even get to see it on the big screen. I would def still recomend Tim Olyphant lol as roland just to put that in lol. When i first left a comment here i started to read the books again, im on the last book now I went thru them all in about a month and a half, couldnt put them down once again. As i go thru the comments again maybe we should just leave it be and not push a movie on this. We all love the books. Aslo soon anothe book will come out in the DT series Thankee big big.

Tommy D – May 27th, 2011
Hi All

New to this site, just started reading through the books from beginning to bitter end and loving every moment.

@pokes23. I think it’s a shame Bardem is being lined up for this role and have you never seen the Road? Mortensen doesn’t just have the look imo, he’s a good actor.

Bardem has not signed to my knowledge and wouldn’t look right.

There is so much reference to Roland’s “look” in the books, many introspective moments where, Eddie, Jake, Suzanna try to weigh up who Roland is when looking at him.

He needs to look Hauted, worn, strong, unflinching, hard of mind and spirit. Viggo has this without having to work on it.

Tim Olyphant. Pfft. You’re kidding right.

Anyway. I read the Drawing of the Three when I was 14, 18 years ago. I loves these books and would love for the moves/series to become reality. But it needs to be done with as much care (if not more) than the Harry Potter or LOTR Trilogys.

This world is a fantastic one, infinately epic in scale, and great time and care should be taken to produce it. And it should not be done by the producers of Game of Thrones. As entertaining as it is, it’s no LOTR.

As for the filler book, I don’t feel we need it. The world has moved on, what we should see are different choices from Roland and his quest for the Dark Tower. What if he didn’t let Jake fall……

Deschain – May 28th, 2011
@Deschain-the other characters description of Roland is exactly why I don’t think Viggo is right for the part. At no point in any of the books is Roland described as a pretty boy with a pointy chin. And yes I’ve seen the Road but sorry that doesn’t sway my opinion one bit. I know there’s alot of LOTR fans that want their boy to be successful but the bottom line is he’s not a good actor and every time I look at him I see Aragorn anyways. Bardem may not be the perfect choice but he blows Viggo out of the water. Remember The Dark Tower IS NOT the lord of the rings and i think my fellow DT freaks will agree that we don’t want it to be.

Pokes23 – May 28th, 2011
@Pokes23 exactly right, Viggo is not talentless but he is no where near the actor Bardem is, Viggo has got where he is by being in some good films, not by acting well…

stonie104 – May 29th, 2011
@Pokes23, I agree I don’t think Viggo is a good choice. And Tom Cruise seriously? I could not think of a worse actor to play Roland. He should NOT have a single role in any of these films. Roland has a very worldly look that Viggo could not pull off, and Tom Cruise is even worse.

Aimee – May 29th, 2011
Tom Cruise!?!?!?! Hahahahaha ooooooooooo whooooooo I needed that today…thankee sai… The wind whispers Bardem is right…as rolands look is described, but up to our imagination, as well. That is the point of fiction, imagination…now i hope WB backs out and someone is willing to take the (not really too much of a) risk and fund this correctly, for imagine how many time EVERY DT fan is going to go see this, then add in the Stephen King fans, fantasy fans, western fans, movie fans, and all thier loved ones who will be made to go with…give it to New Line, give it SKG Dreamworks…id wait longer if it means correct…and im a now kind of person…now imagine Tom Waits as the Man in Black, and tell me thats not perfect…ever seen him play the devil in Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus…phenominal…Gan, please let HBO have the TV series, or AMC, yeah def AMC (walking dead, breaking bad, the killing). I think Insomnia should be made into a movie that is released at the same time the second TV series is on…and give Christopher Nolan the last 3 books of material…that man is master of the subtle darkness in man and communicating it through film

BangoSkank19 – May 29th, 2011
I am new to this website and the books. I love it all. My opinion is that Daniel Day Lewis would make an excellent Roland.

TOBA – May 30th, 2011
@BangoSkank19 I think Tom Waits would make a great Man in Black. I haven’t seen him in many films, but he just looks right for the part. @TOBA welcome we are well met. Long days and pleasant nights. Have you read all the books yet?

Aimee – May 30th, 2011
The devil Tom plays in Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus is a incarnate of Randall Flagg… Im sure of it

BangoSkank19 – May 30th, 2011
Hmm…gonna have to check out The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus it looks like. Hope its on netflix. :-)

Pokes23 – May 30th, 2011
@BangoSkank19 I haven’t been able to see all of it, but what I saw was impressive. I was impressed with how well he played the role. I would like him to have a part in the DT films.

Aimee – May 30th, 2011
@Aimee no I have not read all the books I am on the Wolves of the Calla. My favorite so far is Wizard and Glass, I do not think I have read a better written book than this. I have thoroughly enjoyed all of them though. Long days and pleasant nights.

TOBA – May 30th, 2011
@TOBA…Welcome and I hope your enjoying the ride! Just finished wolves of the calla literally twenty minutes ago ( my second time through the series) and I have to say its easily my favorite so far. The first time I remember wizard and glass being my favorite mostly because of the origin story (Cuthbert rules!) but I really enjoyed wolves this time. It got me thinkin what all the other DT freaks favorite book in the series is? One of my buddies loves the wastelands and my cousin who introduced me to the series swears by song of susannah. What do all of you guys think? Long days and pleasant nights :-)

Pokes23 – May 30th, 2011
@TOBA I love the Wizard and the Glass. When you finish the series I am very interested in knowing your thoughts and feelings on the ending. @Pokes23, I honestly do not think I can pick a favorite one. I have read the series probably at least 20 times. They are amazing. Song of Susannah is one of of my favorite ones. If I was forced to pick I would probably pick that one.

Aimee – May 31st, 2011
that question puzzles me too, do ya. If I HAVE to pick…no wait…hmmm… the one I can most clearly see, as a movie, is “Woves of the Calla”. But “Song of Susannah” which Aimee named, followed that one, and I would love to see Eddie and Roland dealing death to Balazar’s men up there at Chip’s little store. However, IMHO King spent way too many words on Mia/Susannah stuff. That could have been much shorter, I thought, but then again, a lot of it was important to the plot. I mainly contend that the first book SUCKED and I almost did not go on. But Stephen King had me hooked with the second one, “The Drawing of the Three” and then I was putty in his hands. Not the potter, but they potter’s clay, if ye ken. And I look forward to dicussing the ending of the final book, but seems some of you are not that far yet, so I will wait for that. Long days and pleasant nights, my friends…you folken are a blessing for a DT freak We are well met in the House of the Rose!

WillDearborn – May 31st, 2011
As far as who to play the part of Roland…remember that Stephen King saw him as Clint Eastwood. I realize Clint is to old to do this now, but think along those lines.

WillDearborn – May 31st, 2011
@aimee & willdearborn- lol I understand, its kinda like trying to pick your favorite kid. And Mr. Dearborn I have to disagree with your assessment of the first book, although you can tell it was written by a very young and raw Sai King it really lays a good foundation for this awesome story. The slaughter in Tull is one of my favorite parts in the series and its really the only time you get to imagine Roland at his unrelenting best with two good hands. I’ve been a King fan most of my life and its kinda cool to see his writing grow as you go through the first four books. To each their own though.

Pokes23 – May 31st, 2011
@WillDearborn

We hae disscussed the clint thing before, and please remember that King contradicted himself several times throughout the series as to Rolands looks, and if I remember rightly when making a comparison to eastwood, King was mainly referring to the eyes, the cold hard killer eyes.

stonie104 – May 31st, 2011
And one more thought for the night, how about a film remake of “Salems Lot”? Im so sick of the whole teenage vampires in love crap that’s all over the place these days, its time bloodsuckers became badass again! Not to mention its one of the best stories of the genre ever written. Just wishing and hoping :-) Anyways, For Gilead!

Pokes23 – May 31st, 2011
@Pokes23, I would like to see a remake of Salems Lot. I would also like to see Talisman and Black House made into films. I loved Black House. @WillDearborn, I also look forward to discussing the last book, and people’s thoughts on the ending.

Aimee – May 31st, 2011
Hile and Good morning my fellow DT freaks. First let me comment on Cruise. NFW. Yeah, I admit he played a good Austin Powers in Gold Member. lol. But never…I said NEVER would he play the role. Hell he’s as tall as I. (5’5) That would mean alot of elevated walk way work. Or cast the rest as ompa lompa size. My belief on Clint is he would be great as Pere Callahan. Just re-re-re-re started The Dark Tower 7. I love the part with Jake, pere, and oy in the Dixie Pig taking all comers. Especially Oy fighting the bugs from Eluria.

Hope to palaver more today if I’m not slammed here at my job. Long days and pleasant nights Sai Freaks.

Gunslinger9teen – May 31st, 2011
Its been awhile since I’ve been on here and I see we’re still in great anticipation of the movies. I finally finished the last book of the series and I gotta say it wasn’t what I expected….but it seems right. I still can’t wait to see the characters come to life onscreen. These books have become my favorite books I have ever read. I am a fan for life lol! And on the topic of pickin my favorite book…lol…well is hard as fuck. But if I had to pick my absolute favorite I guess it would be Wizard and Glass. It explains a lot about why Roland is the way he is. Anyways…take it easy gunslingers!

Ace – May 31st, 2011
@Gunslinger19 It would be awesome to see Clint play Pere. I know he is too old for Roland, but he would be great for Pere. Going to re-read the books for the ? time once I am done with the series I am currently reading. If Tom Cruise is cast for any part, even as an extra I will personally pay Ron Howard a visit, and I don’t think that would end well for him, may it do ya fine. Loved the Little Sisters of Eluria, will have to re-read that one as well. @TOBA, Once I read the whole series, I have re-read many more of Sai King’s work, and you will see there are references both big and small in almost all of his works. Here are two sites that show the references in case you are interested. Would not recommend looking at these until you have finished all the DT books.

http://www.stephenking.com/darktower/connections.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_King_works_related_to_The_Dark_Tower_series

When I found these sites I went through and read some of the Stephen King books I had not read before, and re-read the ones I had. It was really cool to see all the connections. Long days and pleasant nights.

Aimee – May 31st, 2011
I always hear mixed feelings about the ending of the series, would enjoy you lots opinion.

My only beef with the ending is that King wrote his little bit before the end saying ‘read it if you want’ now im sorry but there is no way I could not of read it when its there in front of me….. hell it sat on the shelf unread for over 3 days before I finally cracked and read it, I dont hate the ending by any stretch of the imagination but I think I would have preffered it if it finished with the doors of the tower closing behind Roland, and leave the rest up to my imagination, but I’m wierd like that, I can live without closure, I think im one of the few who liked the way The Sopranos ended :)

stonie104 – May 31st, 2011
@BangoSkank19 Chris Nolan all the way!!!

My favorite book of the series is definitely Wastelands. I love the story of Jake’s drawing, the riddles and Blaine the Mono. A great twist of sci-fi in that one. It’s been a while since I re-read it. I think I will have to pick it up again. Thanks to all for the great discussion!!

Also, I would love to discuss the ending, put I don’t want to spoil it for anyone.

JKnaak – May 31st, 2011
SPOILER ALERT! DON’T READ THIS UNLESS YOU’VE FINISHED BOOK 7! Alright with that out of the way just wanted to say I liked the ending especially the way it was forshadowed in the previous books. It was quite heartbreaking to know that Roland is doomed to his obsession for all of eternity. But the horn of Eld atleast gives you hope that he may break the vicious cycle eventually. Really my only problem was with King’s reasoning (apology? Excuse?) before hand because it kinda took away from the story. But it really would’ve been a cop out not to get to follow Roland into the Tower after reading seven books. That’s my opinion anyway.

Pokes23 – May 31st, 2011
Wasn’t sure of the ending until about an hour after I finished. I said to myself “Self”, It’s the wheel of Ka at it’s best. With the mention of the Horn of Eld, I was very happy that this would be the last time Roland had to make this eternal quest. He just had to remember the horn. I’ve just started to read book 7 again. ( admittedly for the 12th or 13th time.)

Enjoy your evening ( or day) depending which part of the beam your at DT freaks.

Long days and pleasant nights

Gunslinger9teen – May 31st, 2011
When I read the last novel, I stopped at the warning. I paced my bedroom for about an hour, then curiosity got the best of me. At first I was extremely pissed, then the more I thought about it I actually loved the ending. Yes it was very heartbreaking, but it also gives you hope. There are many clues along the way about how the book will end. I just didn’t pick them up till the last time I re-read the series. Granted they are very subtle, and can be easily missed, but each time I read the series, I seem to pick up on something I missed before. Don’t really want to write anything else, and ruin for those ka-mates who have not finished the series. Long days and pleasant nights.

Aimee – May 31st, 2011
@Aimee thanks for the help. I am anxious for the ending and I will share my opinion with you once I am finished. Long days and pleasant nights.

toba – May 31st, 2011
@TOBA, no problem let me know when you are done and we can palaver. Long days and pleasant nights.

Aimee – May 31st, 2011
OK, New DT Book coming out.. (DT 4.5?)I’m sure it is well anticipated and hopefully will be well-received. But, there are still two HUGE “foreshadowing” sections in DT that have not been adressed (Yet). THESE are the ones I’m waiting for.. #1… How and under what circumstances did Calvin Tower (Toren)’s G-G-Great grandfather get the letter with “Roland Deschain” written on it?? #2, How and under what circumstances did Eddie and Cuthbert (or their twinners) go back in time (In Keystone Earth, yet!!) to save young Sai King from the “Red Eye” spiders when he was a child? Also on that note, King while under hypnosis and asked by Roland how many times his bacon’s been saved by members of Roland’s Ka-Tet, replied; “Delah”. So there were certainly other incidents. Since Eddie does not remember any of them, who did the saving? I hope these questions will eventually be answered by Sai King in future books, although I would be (grudgingly) willing to have them answered in future editions of the Dark Horse graphic novels.

Bradmaj – June 1st, 2011
@Bradmaj, you bring up 2 good points. These are two things I have never thought about before. Can’t wait for the new novel. Although I have to admit I am a little apprehensive that it will not live up to the expectations I have. I mean to go back to the novels now and add another novel, feels a little forced. I do hope he is doing it because Ka wills it, not his own ego.

Aimee – June 1st, 2011
@Bradmaj, regarding the “delah” answer, I think it may be referring to other levels of the Tower. With Roland having the Horn of Eld, he will go through it all again, and save Mr. King again, perhaps for the last time.

The Walkin' Dude – June 1st, 2011
@Pokes23

You’re kidding right, Viggo is not what I would call a pretty boy, but Bardem is (not in NCFOM though). See image below then try and argue the point.

http://www.life.com/image/79294803

He’s a Spanish guy and it’s quite clear that Roland is caucasian, with blue eyes, black hair, tall, slim in build. None of these Bardem is.

Take Viggo out of the equation, I’m no fan boy of his but for me Bardem doesn’t fit, never will.

I had no idea from the LOTR books what Aragorn, Boramere or Faramere should look like. I have clear ideas of what Roland should look like, do you see my point. Aragorn could have been played by anyone, it just happens Viggo was a casting choice.

I don’t feel Roland can be played by just anyone and who ever that actor is they should definately look the part.

Now here’s is a curious thing, Josh Brolin was another mentioned name, not bad either but still not quite right in my book, but fits more physical requirements than Bardem.

See the links below and ask yourself does Bardem really fit?

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3347811840/nm0001557 (Viggo/Brolin) http://www.imdb.com/media/rm275684096/nm0000849 (Bardem/Brolin)

They both have “pointly” faces, though I’d call it a square set jaw.

Deschain – June 2nd, 2011
@Deschain, Hile. I have to admit that Josh Brolin has that look, Viggo has the look also. I have commented about Viggo alot and it is what it is. Viggo was and has been my first choice. It is a major role and doing the movies and series will be a serious undertaking. Bardem is very popular now and more than likely has offers galore. Viggo isn’t as popular as he was, but I think he has the chops most definitely.( I am not saying anything negative about Viggo) Enough of my rambling. Long days and pleasant nights, Sai’s.

Gunslinger9teen – June 2nd, 2011
@ Deschain

I wouldnt call Viggo a pretty boy, but I also wouldnt call bardem one either, they are both good looking chaps but also rugged.

As well, your argument regarding height, weight, hair colour and eye colour is irelevent make up, preperation and camara work can sort all these out very easily (last time I checked Viggo didnt match half your complaints either) , and im sorry but what Roland does or does not look like is very much up for debate mate, various artistic interpratations differ wildly, King contradicts himself several times throughout the series in regard to Rolands appearance, so again please make a relevent point please?

Im sorry but if you knew even a bit about films and acting you would realise that Viggo is no where near at the same level as Bardem when it comes to acting.

I hate it when people start moaning about Bardem and insisting a FAR less capable actor is better suited, Bardem is one of the best actors of his generation, simple. stop being so damn fixated on the look of the character and be gratefull some 2 bit chump of an actor isn’t playing Roland who just happens to match what YOU think he looks like.

This is why directors pretty much ignore Fanboys, because they have no concept of what makes good cinema, just as long as everyone looks right.

stonie104 – June 2nd, 2011
Let us all just kick back, relax and see where this quest takes us. Whomever is going to be our Roland, is going to be. Bardem is signed and we’ll have to see how he does. I am truly excited about the whole experience. Ka willing.

Hey Stonie, Hope Ka is being decent to you. L.D.P.N.

Gunslinger9teen – June 2nd, 2011
In song of susannah Eddie notices that Stephen King and Roland could be father and son. So there you go, King himself should play the gunslinger. Have you guys ever seen “The lonesome death of Jordy Verrill” in Creepshow? An oscar worthy performance if ever there was one! Long days, pleasant nights and “ Holy O’Jesus!” ;-)

Pokes23 – June 2nd, 2011
@Pokes23 Yeah, I remember that role. Dumb farmer finds meteorite, messes with it then sticks his fingers in his mouth. Classic. But if we’re going to talk Sai King’s movie roles there is nothing better than his Emmy worthy role in “The Stand”. It’s at the end when him and Bobby Brady are keeping guard at the entrance to Boulder. “ It’s Stu” C:)>

Gunslinger9teen – June 2nd, 2011
@gunslinger9teen-yeah I remember that one too. “The baby has the flu Stu” in the most stereotypical irish accent ever! He was also the priest at the housekeepers funeral in Pet Sematery. Should’ve won the oscar for that one for sure. Lol.

Pokes23 – June 2nd, 2011
@Pokes23 That accent was his regular voice. Definitely a Maine accent. And funny as hell. Why doesn’t he ever get nominated for Oscars or Emmy’s? We all know he is not the best actor, but one hell of a MFing writer. He would of played a great Tom Cullen. M-O-O-N that spells acting lessons.Lol.

Gunslinger9teen – June 2nd, 2011
@Pokes 23, I love Sai King as a writer, but let’s be honest. He is a horrible actor, and if he plays Roland it would be completely ruined for me. I am sorry but it is bad enough he is already in the books, and will have to be in the films. @Gunslinger19, Yes M-O-O-N Definitely spells acting lessons lol :)

Aimee – June 2nd, 2011
@Aimee I really hope they get someone to play Sai King, because he just couldn’t pull it off. That’s actually funny. He can’t even play himself.

Gunslinger9teen – June 2nd, 2011
If they have to make a low budget Dark Tower project then it wont be worth doing. This will ultimately hinder the production creativity and thus make the story a lamebrain b-side film. It would be impossible to make a decent low budget Dark Tower movie. Sounds like Universal is more like a vampire out to suck the creativity out of the novels. I say screw the films if you have to make it low budget.

Dandelo – June 2nd, 2011
@aimee- I guess sarcasm doesn’t come through very well on this message board because I was totally joking. But just for the record King was hilarious in Creepshow. Best line: “That’s a meteor, I be dipped in shit if that ain’t a meteor!”. Seriously I’d be real surprised if King plays himself in the movies. He’s too to old to play the 77 version and I doubt he wants to re-live getting hit by a vehicle but he’s kind of a weirdo so who knows. @gunslinger9teen-Thats his real accent? Its been a long time since I’ve watched the stand maybe im just thinking he sounded irish. M-O-O-N that spells mistaken lol.

Pokes23 – June 2nd, 2011
@Gunslinger19, “he can’t even play himself” lmao I love it :) @Pokes23, Thank god it was sarcasm lol :) When I first read the series, and I realized how much he wrote himself into the books, I have to admit I was really pissed. To this day it still pisses me off, but what can I do lol :)

Aimee – June 2nd, 2011
@Aimee Yeah kind of different writing himself as Gan. But, in a way, after reading it again it kind of works. I like Eddie talking about how he wasn’t even written yet. Just got to Turtleback Lane and one of the Slow mutants. Killer part. Palaver later DT freaks. May Ka will it.

Gunslinger9teen – June 3rd, 2011

Ok I know that I have been out of the loop for a while, that happens over here in the “sand box”, but I have just caught up to speed. I have several things that I would like to say.

 First, call me crazy but I belive that Sai King didn't just "write" himself into the DT books, but was actualy visited by the Gunslinger and Eddie.  Then saved form certan death by Jake.  To say that Sai King just put himself in there just 'cause is a mistake in my oppion.

  Second, the whole issue with who "should" play Roland.  Yes we all have different ideas on how he looks.  However there are at least 3 things thaat we can all agree on.   1) The cold blue killers eyes.  ( in my book this is the most important) 2) The hard face. ( this is something that sets Roland ABOVE every one.  He needs to have the face of battle hardend royalty, after all he is desendent of Arther Eld him self) 3) He is tall, LEAN, and carries himself verry well.

 Finaly, I would have to say that for me to try to pick a favorite book out of the DT books is imposible.  Every book has it own place in the #1 slot in my heart and mind, and all for their own reasons.  Favorite Quote from all the books is "The man in black fleed across the desert, and the Gunslinger fallowed."  I think that is the greatest way to start Roland's Story.  I love the DT and have read or listened to them maybe 100+ times over the years.  

LONG DAYS AND PLEASANT NIGHTS TO ALL.

CuthbertAllgood – June 5th, 2011

I have enjoyed reading your palavers while having a popkin and washing it down with a cold Nozz-a-la cola! If sai Howard can’t make the movie, remember that’s ka at work. If Gan wants the movie made, Gan will see to it in his own slow time, say thankya. One can also not be certain that Universal isn’t a subsidiary of Sombra or North Central Positronics!

I also have worries about Oy. I pray they don’t make a cheesy CGI Oy! They need to make him look like a real billy bumbler and NOT look like Scooby-Doo! An HBO DT series would be AWESOME!!

Commala-come-kun get this movie done!

Sheemie Ruiz – June 5th, 2011
@CuthbertAllGood, I do see what you mean in regards to him being visited by Roland and Eddie. Let’s hope that is what happened say thankya. I do agree with you in regards to the 3 things we can all agree on. The color of the eyes can be easily fixed with contacts. Javier Bardem does have a hard face, in my opinion. And I think Javier has the acting abilities to carry himself as Roland does. I agree it is impossible to really pick a favorite, and each time I read the series, my “favorite” changes. They are each very special in their own way. I cry your pardon, if I cam across as to hard on Sai King when I wrote my last comment. I truly want to believe that he was visited by Roland and the Gunslinger. I usually believe but occasionally I have my doubts. I cry your pardon, I have forgotten the face of my father.

Aimee – June 6th, 2011
Stephen King was actually visited by Roland and Eddie? Really people? I understand the love for these books. They are great and I doubt I’ll ever find another series that I enjoy more. But let’s not get carried away here.

@Gunslinger9teen, Stephen King did not write himself as Gan. He made it very clear that it was only Gan’s words flowing through him (coming out of his navel if I remember correctly).

The Walkin' Dude – June 6th, 2011
@ Aimee You have done no such thing, for a long time I thaught that it was all Just a story. “Made Up” just to sell books. However things have Happened to me over the years that have made me realize that what Jake said to Roland on the bridge under the mountians is 100% correct. “Go then, there are other worlds than these!”

LONG DAYS AND PLEASANT NIGHTS TO ALL!!

CuthbertAllgood – June 6th, 2011
@The Walkin’ Dude- Stranger things have happened. @CuthbertAllGood- I would like to know more of what happened to you, if you are willing to palaver about it. Long days and pleasant nights.

Aimee – June 6th, 2011
@ Aimee Any time. You can find me on FB the name is Joshua Podmajersky.

LONG DAYS AND PLEASANT NIGHTS TO ALL!!

CuthbertAllgood – June 6th, 2011
@CuthbertAllGood, thankya big big :)

Aimee – June 6th, 2011
Since this whole thing is on hold and the only thing that we can conclude with confidence is that its future is uncertain, we might as well throw Daniel Day Lewis back into the discussion as a truly ideal Roland. For whichever production company and directing/producing team pick it up, it could be more likely that other names get considered, especially since Bardem is on the rise and, most likely, receiving a heck of a lot more scripts and offers than he has been used to receiving in recent years. Thus, his “penciled-in” status appears to be that much more erasable to me. All just my opinion, of course, but give Day Lewis a hard look. The guy can act with the best of them, he’s got the build, the look, and, most importantly - the commitment. (Big caveat here: he does not take on many roles, as he has been known to be a very private guy who’s pretty picky, but when he takes a role, he gives it his all and does a fine job.)
- Disclosure: Day Lewis has always been my #1 for the Roland role, and Bardem my #2, which I’ve considered to be acceptable because he would find a way to do the part justice onscreen; but Day Lewis would be perfect, imo.
Maestro208 – June 6th, 2011
http://filmpopper.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Daniel-Day-Lewis.jpg

This is more how I picture Eldredge Jonas. But that is just my idea.

CuthbertAllgood – June 6th, 2011
only with White hair.

LONGDAYS AND PLEASANT NIGHTS TO ALL!!

CuthbertAllgood – June 6th, 2011
@The Walkin’ Dude: You are correct about the navel. Cry pardon. @All DT Freaks: We have alot of regulars here at are palavers. I am curious about where you are all located on this “planet”? Myself, I am in Rain city/Jet city: Seattle.

“The man in black fled across the desert and the Gunslinger followed”

Gunslinger9teen – June 6th, 2011
I am in the middle of a desert in Afganistan.

LIFE FOR YOU, AND LIFE FOR YOUR CROPS! LOND DAYS AND PLEASANT NIGHTS TO ALL!!

CuthbertAllgood – June 6th, 2011
@Cuthbert I say Thankya’ BIG BIG, for me and my families freedom. Great place to read The Gunslinger. Well I appreciate your palaver. May there be water if Ka wills it. Long days and pleasant nights gunslinger. Watch out for those damn scorpions.

Gunslinger9teen – June 6th, 2011
@Cuthbertallgood-Hile gunslinger! I’m actually really glad you admitted you believe that King was actually visited by Eddie and Roland because I was too embarrassed to admit myself. I never had a problem with that part of the story because it really spoke to me. When I was a kid I used to think that my life was one big comic book and all the things that happened in my life (good or bad) was really just entertainment for some bored kid on some other planet earth somewhere. So call me crazy if ya want (Im lookin at you walkindude) but I believe the story. Like Aimee said stranger things have happened and none of us will know until we reach the clearing at the end of our paths anyway. @gunslinger9teen-I actually live in Boulder at the moment believe it or not. Moving back to Denver in about a month. Long days and pleasant nights to all :-)

Pokes23 – June 6th, 2011
@Pokes23 Boulder, the safe zone from the super flu, to Denver. Watch out for “His” people. They are still out there. Some of them are now in the process of becoming slow mutants. Please say Hile to Stu and Tom Cullen. Thanks for the response Pokes. Long days and pleasant nights to you also.

Gunslinger9teen – June 6th, 2011
Yep, you’re all nuckin futs :)

BTW, I hail from the field of roses… well, the Rose City at least (Portland, Oregon).

The Walkin' Dude – June 6th, 2011
@TheWalkin’Dude, Hey you really shouldn’t pass judgement on people’s sanity. Maybe we are sane and you are the crazy one. @CuthbertAllGood, thank you so much for your service. @Pokes23, thankya big big :) I am from the Kansas City area.

Aimee – June 6th, 2011
@ The Walkin’ Dude. “Le Casse Roi Russe” And yes, I am most definitely “nuckin futs and mentally abstract too. lol Just a 2 hour drive down I-5 from my locale. Thankya’ for letting us now where your at on the beam. Just finished the part where you (The walkin’ dude) has his palaver with Mordred and Mordred is a-hungry BIG BIG. Long days and pleasant nights.

@Pokes23: If my life was a comic or graphic novel, I’d fall under the “Archie and Jughead” section.lol

Gunslinger9teen – June 6th, 2011
New york, New york here and i stoped my self from going to the rose, In fact im scared of what i might find there lol. Dont want to be sucked into todash lol

Tommy D – June 7th, 2011
@Tommy D: But the rose, Sai Tommy, is the White. Besides, going todash occasionally, can be quite the experience. Thankya for chiming(pun intended) in.Long days and pleasant nights.

Gunslinger9teen – June 7th, 2011
@ Aimee: Kansas City? Cool. I believe our fine Ka-tet takes a little trip thru there. Have a Nozz-a-la cola on me. Hope you are having a decent day, Sai Aimee. Long days and pleasant nights.

Gunslinger9teen – June 7th, 2011
@Gunslimger19, I definitely will have a cold Nozz-a-la :) Same to you Sai :)

Aimee – June 7th, 2011
SK took 22 years, hopefully RH won’t take that long.

Eye see all….

CrimsonKing – June 7th, 2011
For people on here saying who should be Eddie Dean… a lot of you are trying to cast guys twice the character’s age. For real.

And Justin Chatwin? Jim Sturgess? Come on… not Eddie material.

Laurz – June 7th, 2011
@Laurz, who do you think should play Eddie. I can’t seem to find the actor I think fits.

Aimee – June 8th, 2011
You know he’s gotta have that “edgy” look. Heroin recovering look. And for the life of me, I can’t think of anyone who can do a real decent job of portraying Eddie Dean. I’ll have to ponder and palaver with our Ka-tet of DT Freaks. Now…let us ponder.

Gunslinger9teen – June 8th, 2011
@Aimee and @Gunslinger9teen:

I think Joshua Jackson might make a good Eddie. His latest regular gig is on the FOX hit, “Fringe”. He’s got that younger face, and he can act. Plus, he can play that sickly, desperate, ill/junkie role well, too (quite important for the material from Book II). Check him out:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005045/

Maestro208 – June 8th, 2011
@Gunslinger19, I completely agree, it will take a lot of thought. I hope they also put a lot of thought into choosing the person for this role. I am also having a hard time choosing someone for Susannah. At first I thought Halle Berry, now I am not so sure she would be able to pull off that role. I am curious as to what others think about who should play the role of Susannah.

Aimee – June 8th, 2011
I don’t think he’s quite perfect for it, but I think Giovanni Ribisi wouldn’t be bad for Eddie. He can definitely pull of the recovering junkie look and is a pretty decent actor.

The Walkin' Dude – June 8th, 2011
Vivica A. Fox for Susannah. I think she would be absolutely perfect for the Detta Walker parts at least.

The Walkin' Dude – June 8th, 2011
I like Giovanni Ribisi . Good call. Haven’t seen him in anything as of late. Susannah. Yeah, another tough call. I would need to see a page of current actresses to give my opinion. For that matter, same with Eddie and Jake. NOW as far as Oy goes…

Gunslinger9teen – June 8th, 2011
@TheWalkin’Dude- I love Giovanni Ribisi, he never even crossed my mind, I think he would be great for the role. I think Vivica A Fox is a good choice. I loved her in Kill Bill.

Aimee – June 8th, 2011
Aaron Paul for Eddie. Jake is going to be the toughest part to cast.

Pokes23 – June 8th, 2011
Giovanni Ribisi as Eddie? Even better! Forgot all about him. In fact, the image I have of Eddie when reading the books is very similar to him, as well. Good call, Walkin’ Dude!

Maestro208 – June 8th, 2011
@Pokes23, He looks the part, but I can’t be a good judge because I have never seen him in anything.

Aimee – June 8th, 2011
@aimee-go pick up the first season of Breaking Bad, guarantee you’ll be hooked by episode 3 and you’ll see why aaron paul IS eddie. Who is giovanni ribisi? Sounds familiar but I can’t put a face to the name.

Pokes23 – June 8th, 2011
Ok just googled Ribisi. Wow he’s been around forever. Could be a decent choice but the thing I’ve seen him in most recently is My Name is Earl so he seems kinda goofy to me. Can’t think of anything dramatic I’ve ever seen him in.

Pokes23 – June 8th, 2011
I could see Ribisi as Eddie, Halle Berry not a good choice for Susannah. Josh Jackson no good as Eddie.

LONG DAYS AND PLEASANT NIGHTS TO ALL!!

CuthbertAllgood – June 9th, 2011
@Pokes23, He was also in Gone in 60 seconds. I think he is a great actor. He is very good at serious roles. @CuthbertAllGood, I agree Halle Berry is not the best choice, but the only one that ever really came to mind.I think Josh Jackson would be a horrible choice. I really don’t think he has the acting abilities to pull off that role.

Aimee – June 9th, 2011
Hile DT Freaks. I know she’s too old now, but the actress I thought of is Angela Basset. She played Tina Turner, and say Thank ya, she was buff. The point is moot anyway.

As far as Jake, Pokes23, that is going to be a tough one.

Little trivia fact: Giovanni Ribisi played Phoebe’s brother in “Friends”. Yeah, a little off kilter in some of his roles, but still a good actor.

More palaver later. May your day be full of good things.big big. Long days and pleasant nights.

Gunslinger9teen – June 9th, 2011
@Gunslinger9teen, Angela Basset is a very good actress. Loved her in What’s Love Got To Do With It? She was amazing. And yes totally buff. Say thankya. You know I could really see her playing the part. In my opinion the best suggestion so far.

Aimee – June 9th, 2011
What’s really is kind of cool is that Susannah/Odetta/ & Detta are 3 separate people, and the actress they get is having to play 3 different roles, thru out the whole series. Then you throw in Mia. In my opinion they maybe need to hire a separate actress just for that role. OR a split screen kind of effect, when she ‘s talking to Susannah at Castle Dicordia and thru out the whole interaction.

Gunslinger9teen – June 9th, 2011
Angela Bassett is Susannah!!! That is how I always pictured her I don’t know why she never came to mind before. (Maybe it was the legs that through me off!! LOL).

LONG DAYS AND PLEASANT NIGHTS TO ALL!!

CuthbertAllgood – June 9th, 2011
Angela Bassett would be superb, but your right Gunslinger9teen, probably too old to be honest.

My picks would be either Thandie Newton, or Rutina Wesley, although im not a massive fan of trueblood, Rutina is very good and could pull off Detta EASY.

Giovanni Ribisi is an epic actor, very underatted in hollywood in my opinion, he has played some very goofy characters but a couple of excellent serious roles were in Saving Private Ryan and Boiler Room

stonie104 – June 9th, 2011
@Stonie104 I completely agree that Rutina could play Detta. In fact I think she would perfect for Detta’s role. I have always thought Giovanni was an underrated actor. He definitely does not get enough credit. I don’t like him so much in his goofy roles, but his serious roles are superb.

Aimee – June 9th, 2011
Well if you go back to “Drawing of the Three” she is decribed as looking older. Plus the when that she is form people were more mature and acted older than people form our own when.

LONG DAYS AND PLEASANT NIGHTS TO ALL!!

CuthbertAllgood – June 10th, 2011
Hile.Good point Cuthbert. Although I would like to see Angela Basset in the role, she is just a tad too old.

Didn’t Ribisi star in a movie where he played a mentally handicapped young man dating Julitte Lewis. He did great in that role. He can definitely play a wide variety of characters. Yep, I think he would be a decent Eddie. Say Thank ya.

More palaver later DT Freaks. And Happy Friday!!!

Gunslinger9teen – June 10th, 2011
@ Gunslinger9teen Yes, Ribisi did play in that movie, it is called “The Other Sister”. He is an awsome actor with such a range that I feel that he is perfect for Eddie Dean. And I don’t think that Bassett is to old, she is just right.

LONG DAYS AND PLEASANT NIGHTS TO ALL!!

CuthbertAllgood – June 10th, 2011
@Cuthbert She is 53 right now. But your right, she might be able to pull it off. She is the image of Susannah that I’ve had in my head since I started reading the series back in 1989-90. Just for a lark, how about Whoopi Goldberg. Let’s see how many DT freaks will respond to this post. LOL.

Now finding an actor for Jake is a bugger. He can’t age too much over the course of the production. Toughy, I say true. No names come to me @ this time. Maybe they can find an unknown. We’ll see how they do.

Long Days and Pleasant nights.

Gunslinger9teen – June 10th, 2011
How old is Ribisi? I mean I remember him being on the Wonder Years when I was a kid so he must be pushing forty by now. My vote is still for Aaron Paul, he’s young enough and already won an emmy so he could definitely pull it off. And as much as I like Angela Bassett she’s just too old now to make it believable. Vivica A. Fox is the best suggestion I’ve heard so far.

Pokes23 – June 10th, 2011
As much fun as it is to speculate about who would be best for what role I feel it will happen like this…. Bradley Cooper as Eddie (cause he is all the sudden famous) Oprah as Susanna (cause she needs to do something and can single handedly finance the movie and give everyone in America free tickets. Samuel L Jackson as Roland (because movie adaptations suck and rarely stay true to the original story. Justin Bieber as Jake and ALF as Oy. Optimus Prime as Blaine the Mono and Lady Gaga as the Man in Black. I may be off in my predictions but I would not be surprised about any or all of the above. I personally hate movie adaptations simply because I took the time and made the effort to read these great stories so I feel I am entitled to the reward that comes from reading. Whatever, maybe the next generation will stop wasting time writing books and go straight to screenplays.

Wes – June 11th, 2011
Aaron Paul is perfect for Eddie!! He is a great actor from what I have seen on Breaking Bad.

JKnaak – June 11th, 2011
just tuning in. Aaron Paul. I say no, but whatever. Majority will do the talking But there’s one thing i wanted to say- brown(zoltan dude) is shaun white.(Only person i SAW during the reading) In my eyes, off course

edzenis – June 11th, 2011
Why is Javier Bardem playing Roland? That is a terrible idea. He is so wrong for the part, and I cannot imagine him in the role. Don’t get me wrong; he is a great actor. It is just the wrong part for him. Guy Pearce, Viggo Mortensen, or even Sean Bean would all be good. No one other than Zoe Saldana could play Susannah. Timothy Olyphant as Eddie maybe? Cast an unknown as Jake

Peter – June 12th, 2011
Well sence everyone thinks that Bassett is to old what does everyone think about Naomie Harris?

LONG DAYS AND PLEASANT NIGHTS TO ALL!!

CuthbertAllgood – June 12th, 2011
@WES Sai, that is some funny sh*t, but some definite truth to it. When SK is involved in his movies, he should fight for artistic control. I mean this is his opus, his LOTR. Wouldn’t you, as the creator of something this epic and incredibly enthralling, want it to be what we all as DT freaks need?

It’s not as if he (SK) is long dead, as in Tolkien. (but close after the mini-van incident). So you’d expect him to try to have more say. Unless it’s just for the money. Then, in that case, that’s crap!

I really can’t say any more, who is going to be who. Just that all I want as an uber-fan is for it to be true to the tale. Say thank ya big big.

Gunslinger9teen – June 13th, 2011
Anyone watch The Killing on AMC? Joel Kinneman…the guy who plays Detective Holden (ex methhead) is the best eddie ive seen in.my eye

BangoSkank19 – June 14th, 2011
I think Justin Chatwin would be absolutely perfect for the role of Eddie…I imagine him to look exactly like that!

Lazydroid – June 15th, 2011
@Lazydroid, he looks closer to my version of Eddie than the others. I can’t really judge his acting abilities. All I have seen him in is War of the Worlds.

Aimee – June 15th, 2011
Justin Chatwin definitely has the look, not sure if he has the chops

JKnaak – June 17th, 2011
I only ask that you remember Sai King was thinking of Clint Eastwood when he wrote this. Eastwood is far too old now, of course, but keep that in mind for the role of Roland. You say true, I say thankya

WillDearborn – June 25th, 2011
I was saddened like most to hear this but instead of Kami.g more problems or whining I thought of an idea.. why not do an animation, what better way to get the actors in the film at a lower cost no travelling ect … I’m no movie producing guru but there are comic books for the dark tower series.. maybe this could be seen in the future ( before I die lol please)

patrick garner – July 30th, 2011
Oy! Susana Walker - Rosario Dawson The Man In Black - Gary Oldman

G – August 6th, 2011
I can’t believe this people!, financing movies like battle ships and such!.. They are for real! Who wants to see a movie base on a bord game .. Instead leaving this great story out!., the Dark Tower is just Mr. King the Best story ever!. Many generations are growing up with the stories of the Gunslinger,, if this people has only any sense of knowing what they are doing., they will take DT back into his plans.. And we all hope for this to happens Soon!!

Carla Rusconi – August 7th, 2011
Peter Jackson would b my choice for something as Epic as this. And SciFy Channel for the series, As 4 Roland, Jason Mamoa from Game of Thrones and Stargate Atlantis would b an excellent pick, who needs big screen , I’m down for Starz I’m waiting 4 someone to Series “The Talisman” like The Stand , kinda fits the times we looive in now. “The Hurt Locker” was low budget and won best film , Maybe She shouldQtake the endeavor and do it Old School!!! We R Hurting Financially as a World, but yet HOLLYWOD continues to pump hundreds of millions of $$$ into lame at best average movies, take “The Decent” Epic Novel by Jeff Long, that movie wasn’t even a chapter in the book. What flop, it woulda took sommin like Lord of The Rings to capture it, Let HBO, STARZ, OR SHOWTIME they’ve done Fantastic at works this large.

Louis Cypher – August 10th, 2011
My husband said that this would be the greatest movie ever made if they done it by the book. Please make this movie or your going to be loosing alot of money.

Dreama Hope – August 20th, 2011
@ Gunslinger9teen - This is going to sound odd, but I was wondering if you could e-mail me (cheesy_grrrl AT yahoo DOT com)? I have a question for you. :)

Amber – February 28th, 2013