Universal Quits The Dark Tower

Jul 20, 2011   By: Michael | #Hobbit  #LotR  #Mike Fleming  #Ron Howard  #Universal  #Warner  

In yet another spin on the adventure that is our filmic journey to the Dark Tower, Universal has decided to throw in the towel on the movie trilogy/TV series. Yeah okay, no real surprise here.

A number of reports have come in over the last couple of days telling that financial constraints are the reason and that Universal were only prepared to go ahead with a one movie project. It’s also been pointed out that Universal is currently backing a couple of $200+ million projects (Battleship and 47 Ronin) so they obviously feel that they’re stretching their pockets a bit too much with the Dark Tower.

According to rogue reporter Mike Fleming, neither Ron Howard nor Universal wishes to come out and explain the whys, but no doubt the reasons will come to light in the coming days.

So where does this leave the project?

Up a creek with no paddle, some would say. However, I like to think of myself as a glass-half-full type of guy so I’m going with the hope that the previous Warner Bros speculation will come to fruition, and considering (as Fleming points out in his post) WB are financing Peter Jackson’s two-part Lord of the Rings prequel, The Hobbit, they certainly seem open to backing epic tales.

One thing is for certain, it’s time to hunker down – we’re in for a long wait.

129 responses

Go then Universal. There are other production companies than these.

The Walkin' Dude – July 20th, 2011
something about this ka-tet of universal and R Howard never seemed to feel right to me. I think we would all rather wait for a product we can be proud of, after all it is the Dark Tower.

Restaurant of the Mind – July 20th, 2011
I expected something like this, but I’m not gonna pretend like I’m not disappointed.

Smtmz – July 20th, 2011
I am actually happy to hear this. @Restaurant of the mind, you said it perfectly something never felt right about this to me either. I would rather wait and have it done right, then have Ron Howard and Universal, destroy this. There will be water if Ka wills it, and obviously Ka doesn’t will it right now.

Aimee – July 20th, 2011
wait. so universal only wanted to do ONE film?

Sam – July 20th, 2011
Wait. Universal only wanted to do ONE film?

Sam – July 20th, 2011
Problem #1: Ron Howard and Akiva G. at the helm. You’ve got to have a great vision and a convincing script, and, as much as I WANTED RH to do well… I just don’t buy it. Not from this combination, and no one needs the touch to figure that out.

Problem #2: Universal. See articles. You need a heavy backer for a project of this magnitude, and they’re taking the test-drive-or-nothing approach. Can’t blame ‘em, but The Dark Tower is an epic sage that has to be done right, and right from the get-go, imo.

Problem #3: The TV series angle. If any major network signs on (NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX), this whole thing is toast. To do The Dark Tower tale any justice at all, it has GOT to be rated R, plain and simple. Water it down, and this thing will be presented merely as a shadow of what it otherwise could be. Mass-market interest will be light, and not many people will “get” it, imo. It would be like filming Gladiator for a kiddie audience, and skipping over all the visceral battle scenes, etc., that made Maximus’s plight hit home. Wouldn’t work, no one would care, and it would be a big WTF moment – a fail, if I ever saw one.

So, this is actually good news to the patient-hearted. Its time will come when the right pieces are in place to present the world with a spectacle worthy of seeing and a tale with a cast of memorable characters that the average person wants to follow.

LD&PN, folks!

Maestro208 – July 20th, 2011
Should we take anything from the fact that this came out on the 19th of July?

Walter – July 20th, 2011
at least we have the new book to look forward to. I agree with Maestro208. It has to be rated r and this hurts the scope of its potential audience. I can see Ron Howard playing Gasher but other than that, meh. Wish the Coen Bros could get the rights and pitch it to Showtime/ HBO. It needs some hype to the lure in the unreaders. Just hope to see the finished product before I reach the clearing at the end of the path. time Todash to lunch.

Restaurant of the Mind – July 20th, 2011
I totally agree with Maestro. If someone can make pretty good monsters on a new TV show, imagine the epic series of The Dark Tower (all 7 editions) on the BIG screen. The Lobsroties (s?) would be awsome with the right special effects person. As for myself, I believe someone has to do something to bring The Dark Tower to life on the big screen.

Wendi L – July 20th, 2011
well, that’s not surprising. At least there’s still the new book and the comics for us to look forward to. Thankee-sai to Ron Howard. Anyone know what’s next?

The Lone Gunman – July 20th, 2011
@Restaurant of the Mind the coen brothers would be awsome!!!

Sam – July 20th, 2011
And we were so close. I just don’t think anyone will pick it up. Although WB might be looking for that next big movie series after HP is over.

Emily – July 20th, 2011
Whomever does this (IF it ever gets done), they need money, freedom, and a shared vision with Stephen King. It’s that simple.

LD&PN

Maestro208 – July 20th, 2011
NBC/Universal out, Good! R.Howard out, GOOD! The movie trilogy plus network TV series had so much potential for disaster they’re too numerous to mention(especially with “feel good” RH at the helm). @Restaurant If only the stars would align. DT as a premium cable series produced by the Coens… my mind reels with potential bliss.

Gregor – July 20th, 2011
As MUCH as I want to see this hit the big screen I have to say… Thank Gan!!! If Universal didn’t want to do what was necessary to make it happen than I say bring on the next. I just hope this means Howard will be replaced as well.

Zed – July 20th, 2011
Hello HBO/Showtime!?!?! This would be great mini-sereies. And we know they would do it right-and tell it like it was, without skipping over critical story items.

If Ka wills it…

erock – July 21st, 2011
Give it to the people that made Harry Potter such a success….. hmmmm?

Becky – July 21st, 2011
yeah i think WB could do it…

Sam – July 21st, 2011
I agree any rating less than R would never do it justice. I would love to see this made into 7 full length films, however that will probably never happen. All I have to say is thank Gan Ron Howard and Universal is out. Even if it means waiting 20 years, I would rather wait than have this made into a general audience PG-13 piece of crap.

Aimee – July 21st, 2011
grrrr I want to mind spear universal lol. Anywho great Gan please help us to get along the path of the beam.

Ted B – July 21st, 2011
More like WIZARD GLASS-half-full!

Childe Roland – July 22nd, 2011
It really irritates me how Harry Potter gets 7 stupid films and they wont even greenlight this project. Fuck Harry Potter and Twilight, give us DT fans what we want!!

RoontTwinnerDave – July 22nd, 2011
Ron Howard is a great filmaker but yes he probably would have watered it down to a PG-13 type of movie, on top of that Javier Bardeem was wrong for the part of Roland Deschain. I agree with many of my fellow Tower Junkies, put this thing on HBO and I love the idea of the Coens behind it.

Craig – July 22nd, 2011
turn to HBO, They have made a great show of A Game of Thrones……if anyone can get this done go after them or showtime!!!!

Joshua – July 22nd, 2011
Axe the whole thing altogether. There’s not a movie studio around that’s gonna see enough dollar signs to ever make these movies the way they should be made. You can fuck Harry Potter and those terribly cheesey vampire flicks all you want but the fact is those movies and books reach a wider audience than the Dark Tower ever will. Just forget about it…the books will always belong to those of us that give a damn and they can’t take that away. It would have been nice to see but nobody is ever going to do it right so as for me im just going to keep reading the books now and then and take comfort in the fact that if I do that, I will never be disappointed.

Pokes23 – July 22nd, 2011
@Pokes23, you kinda have a point. With the books you are never disappointed. Roland, Jake, Susannah,Eddie, Oy, and everyone else can look how you have always imagined them. I would love to see these on the big screen. I can’t believe crap like Harry Potter gets 7 full length films. Someone will come along who can make these right, if Ka wills it. Obviously Ka and Gan hates Ron Howard and Universal.

Aimee – July 22nd, 2011
i love the books: every time i read them i get more out of them. and i have read them quite a few times. i know that the movies could never be as good but i still cant help feeling disappointed, even if RH and JB werent quite the people i expected

Sam – July 22nd, 2011
@Sam, I am the same way, every time I read the books I find something I missed before. It is awesome.

Aimee – July 22nd, 2011
That is kind of bitter sweet i want the dark tower series to have all 3 movies at least, there is no possible way you can make a feasible movie of the books in one movie so if you arent going to do it right dont do it at all so i am happy with that. The tv series will be interesting as well i am really hoping they do both with another studio, it will definately be a big hit for me and i have been anticipating it since announced but as I said if you arent going to do it right dont do it i can wait.

Gino – July 22nd, 2011
If the Coens did a miniseries on Showtime/HBO, I would be beyond ecstatic. But realistically, it’s never gonna happen. The Coens have a ton of scripts already written, a ton of projects ready to go. Why would they drop those to do something as huge and risky as The Dark Tower when they have plenty of movies all ready to be greenlit – movies that are almost guaranteed not to flop. It would be awesome, probably even ideal, but it won’t happen. Even if they’re huge fans of the books (which is something I’ve never heard so for all I know they are) they have no reason to take on such a massive project with such a high chance of failing.

I would love for HBO or Showtime to pick it up as a miniseries though. There are plenty of examples of well done miniseries out there and those PPV networks can show the story in all its glory, unlike standard cable networks.

I think Andrew Dominik would be a good director. Pretty young, has made a couple of solid movies, influenced by some very well crafted and intricately storied western films and novels… If he’s able and willing, I think he’d be a good choice. He’s not a blockbuster director so I think it’d be possible for him to be “bought” into the project, and despite his relative youth he does have a couple of successes under his belt. DT seems right up his alley too…

John – July 23rd, 2011
where in that articale did it say ron howard is backing out i think he could be a great directer for this film and obviously so does King.

joshb – July 23rd, 2011
I say again..HBO!…Game of Thrones is spectacular….and they are following the books…The only way to do it justice would be 10-12 one hour episodes for 3 or 4 seasons…There is just too much content to do it with a few movies.

deflep71 – July 23rd, 2011
The best part of the Harry Potter movies was watching Emma Watson’s breasts grow. If no movies are made of the Dark Tower that’s fine with me. I hope Mr. King seeks vengence by churning out another 7 books in the Series. Many levels to the Tower, many stories to be told.

Slow Mutant – July 24th, 2011
@Slow Mutant, I would love to see another 7 books come out. That would be amazing.

Aimee – July 24th, 2011
This news is heartbreaking. Knowing there was a plan in place to make the DT series into a movie was enough to get me out of bed in the morning, just to pass the days until it was finished. But now i must remain in bed, depressed and lusting after what we may now never see in our life time.

We all need to get as many people as we can buying and reading new copies of the books so that there is more interest in filming them. Nobody is going to want to make a loss on a movie, especially one that would cost as much to do properly as the DT story. So start nagging your mates to buy and read the books, and we may succeed in projecting further profits from the movies.

Addressing the great Mr King - im sure you can afford to kick-start this project yourself by now - after all you are one of the most prolific (and most skilled) writers in history. It was one of the stories that lit the writing flame under your back side so pay it the respect it deserves, theres a nice chap.

DrawnGunslinger – July 25th, 2011
Mr. King already has one book finished in the new Series. He easily can come up with six more. I would even be satisfied if the stories do NOT follow Roland and the gang, but just flesh out the worlds he has created. Like the battle between Sombra and Tet. Or a historical visit of Lud in its height of glory. Or even a complete story with only billy bumblers as the main characters. Maybe if the Constant Readers supply enough ideas, Mr. King will continue the journey just one more time.

Slow Mutant – July 25th, 2011
@ Slow Mutant: This saga is very personal to Stephen King. He has said this numerous times, and he considers it to be his magnum opus. So much so that he includes himself in the books, thus making it a really unique tale in its own right, blurring fiction and reality in just such a way that allows him to connect many of his other works to one another with, of course, the convenient Dark Tower at the center of it all. That being said, with all due respect, I believe that adding yet more books to this saga would just water it down. Sure, it would be fun to indulge in those side subplots every now and then, but I would be very wary of more than this upcoming novel being added to the mix just for the sake of fleshing out more backstory and drudging up more interest from fellow DT Junkies like ourselves. I respect that the final book ended the way it did, and adding yet more books thereafter kind of makes the whole thing feel like a b.s. rollercoaster ride, imo.

@ Pokes23: I actually completely agree with you. Axe it altogether, at least for now, unless someone has enough expendable income (and time) to do this correctly. It’s more of a “do it for art’s sake” than anything at this point in time. There IS a fundamental difference between the potential of King’s Dark Tower books being made into live-action entertainment and the Harry Potter, LOTR, and Twilight franchises, and it is audience interest. Simply put, those other mega-blockbuster tales became household names as well-established favorites among children and adults alike, and long before their first films were released in theaters.

My concern with the DT saga is its lack of an already embedded audience that’s sizable enough to even justify such a large cinematic undertaking. We’d love it, of course, and mostly to indulge in the fantasy onscreen in a new medium that we haven’t experienced yet. As of right now, we are part of a niche fanbase, and nothing more. Children do not read these books and delight in them, for obvious reasons, so therein lies quite a challenge: how on Earth does audience interest and motivation get inspired? What is so captivating about the Dark Tower to the layperson out there who’s just seeking some quality entertainment on the big screen? Roland’s single quest that spans 7 books pales in comparison to, say, Harry Potter’s many adventures, plots, enchanting eye candy, and constant entertainment that each single book/movie offers the casual moviegoer. Of course, I love the Dark Tower’s classic hero’s journey, but what about it will suck these folks in, as well? I envision a much quieter, darker tale, and that’s fine by me, but I would bet that production studios see it as a negative when the almighty dollar is at stake.

I dunno. The Dark Tower is strong with character psychology, but it’s just not as enchanting, riveting, or action-packed as HP or LOTR within their respective genres (as movie material). It’s easy to CGI it up and make countless battle scenes and fantastical environments, etc., but not as easy to show the psychological aspects of King’s characters onscreen, and that is probably 50% of this whole series. (In my opinion, of course; total estimate.) Anyone out there really think that this could still take off and be embraced by the average movie-going audience?

Maestro208 – July 25th, 2011
Good points Maestro.

I agree that grabbing a huge audience, a la LotR and HP isn’t likely to happen. I think this is especially true given the nature of the first book. It’s not really much of a complete tale on it’s own and I’m sure a lot of non-Tower Junkies would complain that there just isn’t much there.

However, if they did it chronologically, with the first movie covering the events leading to Roland earning his guns and ending with the events in Hambry, it would probably be better received by a mainstream audience. The “forbidden love” between Roland and Susan should help to draw in the young female demographic and of course there is enough action to lure in the average male. (Guns and magic in the same movie? Sign me up!)

I’m not saying that’s the way it should be, but it might help the masses swallow that first pill so to speak.

The Walkin' Dude – July 25th, 2011
@The Walking Dude:

“Go then Universal. There are other production companies than these.”

I just lol’d so hard. Thanks for a good laugh ;)

Lexi Deschain – July 25th, 2011
@The Walkin’ Dude, the thought has also crossed my mind that if done in chronological order it would attract more people. However I think it would take away from the true DT Junkies. @Maestro 208, when I said 7 more books, I was thinking more of expanding the stories on other characters. Or give more of a history on Gilead etc. I am so excited about new novel in the series. Hope it holds up to my expectations. Long Days and Pleasant Nights.

Aimee – July 26th, 2011
@ Walking Dude: I second the motion to film “Wizard and Glass” first. The love story, the supernatural and the epic battle at the end. That would be spectacular! Throw in flashforwards of older Roland and the gang, without any explanation, and the audience will go WTF? Who are those people? That will suck them into the series. Instead of being just a cowboy movie with magic elements, they will realize that it is a part of a larger whole. How about Zac Efron for young Roland? That will get the girls all gaga

Slow Mutant – July 26th, 2011
Universal, go to hell, if it do ya.

Black 13 – July 26th, 2011
@walking dude i dont think wizard and glass would be right at all as a movie its plot is complicated and to portray the anxiety of susan leading up to the harvest moon would be better done in a series and i dont think it alone would be enough to draw that big of an audience .also if its done right the movie would be seen by Kings fans but also anyone interested in fantasy/horror movies.not to mention western fans…..and The Gunslinger is more that that anything.on the whole i think this movie could generate a large fanbase bigger than the books (if only because americas unwillingness to read) and a larg revenue as well.but as they say there will be water if ka wills it

joshb – July 26th, 2011
It always seemed to me that wizard and glass happened at exactly the right time in the books so to begin the films with it seems kinda clunky to me. More and more I hear people bitch about the first book and it baffles me. Its one of my favorite reads of all time. While I agree there might not be enough material there for a whole movie, I would have zero problem with the first movie containing part of the drawing of the three as well. If you really want people to buy into the characters you can’t start the series with a bunch of young actors that are going to be in one movie and that’s it. Let’s face it this will probably never happen because its a little too deep on some levels for todays casual movie goer but we can always dream. Long days and pleasant nights to all.

Pokes23 – July 27th, 2011
At this point in time, I would have to think that a team ambitious enough to bring this project to life with any respectability would have to have King’s blessing to tweak the storyline. And, in many ways, that could be upsetting to DT Junkies like us. I only say this because this entire tale has “Cult Favorite” written all over it; consequently, there just aren’t enough plot elements to keep it moving in a way that mainstream movie audiences want/like/can follow. Sure, we would LOVE it if it stayed true to form and had strong actors that looked and played the parts of these characters well, including some convincing CGI where it is simply unavoidable, but the rest of the folks out there - the bulk of the potential audience - likely will not dig it. HP and LOTR set a high bar for multi-film epic fantasies, and I don’t know where this dark, quiet, post-apocalyptic western with a touch of sci-fi and strong psychological elements really fits.

As of right now, The Dark Tower, however it is told onscreen, is but an indulgent wish for me. And I accept that. Besides, we always have the books. :)

LD&PN

Maestro208 – July 27th, 2011
I don’t think that Ron Howard should direct this film. It needs someone with more experience with this kind of Genre. Like Peter Jackson and what-not. And although Javier Bargem is a good actor, I think David Craig or Viddo Mortenson would better look the part.

ShadowDepth – July 27th, 2011
@pokes23 i agree on all levels.the gunslinger was such a good book i read it in one sitting and i was hooked.your right it would be unwise for wizard and glass to precede the gunslinger because you wouldnt be emotionally invested enough in the characters to even care what the back ground story is.

joshb – July 27th, 2011
I think a strong point to start the movie from would have been Jake’s scene - getting pushed into the flow of traffic and dying, then cutting to Roland crossing the desert and eventually crossing paths with Jake at the waystation. It would not be a good idea to do it in chronologiccal order (as has already been said) because you need to get your claws into the audience from the word go.

DrawnGunslinger – July 28th, 2011
@DrawnGunslinger: Good point, and nice call on that one. That way, the scene can be revisited again later, from Jack Mort’s perspective, as well. I like it. Gotta be creative and think outside of the box for this tale to hold water with modern audiences and tight production budgets.

LD&PN

Maestro208 – July 28th, 2011
I hope and pray down on my cine-skinned knees that frank’s stepping back from “walking”means that stephen king/grazer/Howard realize that frank darabont must and should step forward as director behind “The Dark Tower”….if ever there was a case of “duh” in the movies and “duh” in the case of king adaptations and “duh” in the case of Howard hawks genre understanding – it’s that frank should be manning this enterprise. He should be bringing his run and gun approach to this bloated Howard/grazer misfire. Both H&G are great producers and have impeccable taste, so get’er done and send out the press release saying “TDT welcomes FD aboard!” I can’t stay in this supplicant prayer pose forev!

Alex downs – July 28th, 2011
Any thoughts on entirely animated DT movies? In the style of the graphic novels would be nice.

DrawnGunslinger – July 30th, 2011
Too bad. Although I’m not really a DT fanatic, this book series just screams epic movie all over it. If it were done right, I think it could be the next big blockbuster: theres something for everyone potentially. Hope some studio does pick it up.

sam – July 30th, 2011
I am lusting and reminiscing. I think I need to go and start reading them all over again. Must be for the fourth time now.

I see Clint, even in his old age as being my Roland. The soft spoken, hard edged old man. Roland was old in the books, I work out to be around 60 or 70. Bring it on please!

Sonja maria – July 31st, 2011
“Cowboys and Aliens” killed off Dark Tower. Unless there is a sudden interest in cowboys and weirdness, Hollywood wouldn’t do another cowboy movie anytime soon. They are too similiar. But then again they are doing two Snow White movies right now. If Ka wills it.

Slow Mutant – August 1st, 2011
Whats mind blowing is the potential soundtrack. The first song that came to mind was Veteran of Psychic Wars, Blue Oyster Cult. This would be awesome for any scenes with the lowmen or the benders. Thoughts??

Restaurant of the Mind – August 2nd, 2011
Right
1. The Dark Tower series is probably one of the most intense and visually stunning collection i have ever read. Each and every moment in the books is relevant and necessary. Like Harry Potter and The Lord of The Rings, they need to be broken down and created as they were written. Anyone who has read the books will know this. The only way to recreate this series is to break it down in the same way the other epics did, for example film one being the ginslinger, we are introduced to him bits of his history jake and end with man in blacks conversation, second being the drawing of the three etc. To Compile it into one film would ruin it and would kill the book series for everyone.
2. TV series never works. I have never been able to get into a TV series let alone one based on books. Can you imagine Lord of the Rings in a tv series? it isnt worth thinking about. To do that to this legendary series of books is terrible. You would loose respect rather than gain it
3. this is not something to be rushed. Harry Potter took years to create and release, its success was down to the effort, actors and phenomenal visual effects in it. In no way am i comparing the two series but in order to make the Dark Tower have the same impact on viewers as the books did on the readers is make it accurate and do it in series.
4. Actors need to be thought through, a crap Roland will kill the film. You want someone with the ability to express emotion and be flexible with the extremes in Rolands tragic life. In the books it was almost obvious the inspiration for the character was Clint Eastwood, you want to find an actor with the same rugged personality and appearance. Part of Steven Kings legacy is he creates fantastically dynamic characters that capture the reader you need to do the same with all the characters in the film or it wont do them justice.
in summary this film should be a high budgeted SERIES of films. You have the opportunity to create the next epic film series, since HP and Lord of the rings are complete. You want to create a series people will watch religiously and be excited about when the next film comes out. I love the books my family does too, you want people to love the films like the book but if it was just one singular film, there is nothing to look forward to no anticipation for the next one. i would only watch it to compare and at the rate its looking atm, its gonna be straight to DVD. Ditch the TV series, put the money to films, save up and give it to the visionaries. It shouldn’t take an 18 year old fanatic to turn around and say i could do a better job. And that is the last thing to remember, Steven Kings the Dark Tower has such a HUGE fanbase one shoddy film will loose the majority. i want to be excited about these films not dreading them rant over
Alana – August 3rd, 2011
@ Resteraunt of the mind I would like to hear some Delerium in there :) its what i listened to when reading the series, my memories of him in Lud whilst listening to Resurrection and Incantation was fabulous, if you don’t know what i am on about go look them up. I would wait 10 years for a good series :D i want to see Blaine in all his malevolent glory

Alana – August 3rd, 2011
Lets pound the pavement, as they say. Each major production company has a “contact us” method. Yeah all of them probably goes some teenager that is just working the summer, but eventually, if enough emails are sent, they will see the all of the demand for this series, and they will have to pay attention. I would love to see this happen, but well, to see this series poorly made would be a horrible thing. So lets get out there and make something happen, and not wait for mean old Ka to rear its ugly head and do something for us, after all the gunslinger said it best, “You can change Ka, it has happened before”

thegreatdalmooty – August 5th, 2011
@Alana, THANK YOU. I HAVE BEEN SAYING THE SAME THING FOR MONTHS :) It needs to be done in a 7-8 film series. NO TV! I would rather wait 10 years than see it be done horribly. @Drawn Gunslinger, I would rather poke my eyes out than to see an animated film series. Entirely to kiddie in my mind. I want to see it in all it’s glory, and in my opinion that just isn’t going to happen with any animation. If it does come out as animated I will NEVER watch it. I

Aimee – August 6th, 2011
@Aimee - Alright chill out a bit about the animation thing, believe it or not there are animations that are not aimed at children and have the potential to be just as emotive as a live action flick. I dont mean an animation like those you watch as a child, I mean something more like anime but in the style of the DT graphic novels only cell shaded. Guess you would need artistic vision to grasp what i mean. However I agree with you that the DT movies should be spread over more than a trilogy. Any less than 5 movies would not suffice to tell the whole tale proper and true.

DrawnGunslinger – August 6th, 2011
@DrawnGunslinger, Sorry I came across so harsh, I cry your pardon. You are correct anything less than about 5 movies will not tell the tale properly. I want nothing left out.

Aimee – August 6th, 2011
regardless of what we may want I think that if this is made it will be animated. Something like Titan AE or Final Fantasy. I don’t think this is the way I would want to see it but it would be cheaper and the only limits to the look are the imaginations of the writers and animators. I really think that the cost aspect and the novelty of an animated dramatic sci-fi, fantasy, horror movie would sell it to producers.

Wes – August 6th, 2011
@Aimee - No need to apologise, I understand. I’m passionate about this too.

TBH, the only reasons I mentioned the idea were; because i thought it would be cheaper to produce; the characters could be who you wanted them to be, rather than having to cast people who inevitably dont feel right; and the difficult scenes: drawing of people between worlds/blaine is a pain/use of flashbacks etc, would be more easily integrated into the environment.

I would prefer to see it filmed live action though as i apreciate an animated LOTR or HP would have been rubbish, but the DT books would translate nicely into a mature and epic animation.

DrawnGunslinger – August 6th, 2011
@Alana- To be honest, I was never big on tv series as well but then Game of Thrones rolled along on HBO. With the right crew, a great series CAN be made. If you want something that sticks to the books, a tv-series on a premium network like HBO/showtime would probably be the best way to go.

And good riddance Universal if they only wanted one movie for the WHOLE SERIES. Are you kidding me? I have a hard time seeing the final book even being one movie. Mini-series is the way to go! :D

Jordan – August 6th, 2011
I prefer a Miniseries myself, HBO/Showtime ect. However If a mature animated translation was to be produced… What if they not only made Roland’s character look similar to Clint Eastwood but actually got Clint Eastwood to voice Roland? Would this change anyone’s opinion on the matter?

Aloenam – August 7th, 2011
I kinda like the idea of an animated movie series I think it’d be awesome…don’t know about Clint doin the voice of Roland tho…he’s got an old man raspy voice now

Ace – August 7th, 2011
With regards to casting i think Brendan Gleeson would make a good Cort.

DrawnGunslinger – August 7th, 2011
I’m pretty disappointed but I’d rather they not do it at all than they do it terrible.

I’d much rather see HBO take over the project as a multi-season TV show and give it the grit it deserves.

Semaj – August 11th, 2011
I’m hoping for HBO at this point. Jeff Fahey is an extremely good actor, who could use the work, he wouldent even need the contact lenses. He’s the right age now as well. For some reason everyone wants Johnny Depp (Who’s way too old) to play Eddie Dean. I say he’s the perfect Gasher.

Shardik the Care Bear – August 12th, 2011
Shardik the Care Bear = LOL (I’m not laughing at you, just at the awesome name)

Every time I see Jeff Fahey in something, I still see Job from the Lawnmower Man. I know it’s been 20+ years, but I just can’t see past that role. Even as Lapidus on Lost, I half-expected him to shout “Cybo-Man!!!” every other scene he was in.

I’ve heard suggestions for Depp as Roland, but not Eddie. And I really can’t imagine him taking on a bit part like Gasher (unless maybe he’s a Tower Junkie like the rest of us).

The Walkin' Dude – August 12th, 2011
Has everyone just ignored Walter? he made the most important point. It was axed on the 19th of July!!!

R.F – August 13th, 2011
Also i agree with the mature animation standpoint: graphic novel/anime style. i think the dream sequences etc would be amazing then

R.F – August 13th, 2011
I love good animation, but I don’t think a full animation would do the series much justice.

It might be okay for some scenes though, but I can’t imagine any Stephen King adaptation to be fully animated, it will never have the right atmosphere. Plus, Dark Tower has a tons of deja-vu’s (from The Stand, to spaghetti westerns etc…). If they’re going to draw these, it will never come across.

Also, a tv series would be perfect. The problem with adaptations of Stephen King novels is that they are too rushed, but series like “The Stand” was perfect.

Movies are for short-stories, not for novels.

obx – August 14th, 2011
They should get different directors for each film (doesn’t really matter how many as long as there’re more than 3). I can see Tarantino directing the 1st, followed by Clint Eastwood for the 2nd. Then let Chris Nolan run with the rest… Oh, and Jon Hamm for Roland. Can totally see him doing the commala.

Calvin Tower – August 14th, 2011
It has been many and many days since I have looked in here…you say Delah, I say thankya. I just read every post, and I must say one thing…DT junkies are an incredibly intelligent and articulate ka-tet!

I agree with the general concensus. As much as I would love to see this stupendous story unfold on the big screen, I would rather live without it than see it done poorly. I am not in favor of seeing it in animation, no matter how well done. However, DrawnGunslinger, your idea of opening the thing with Jake’s (first) death, being pushed into traffic, then cutting to Roland crossing the desert is absolutely brilliant! The juxtaposition of civilization (all the people gathered at the scene, emergency vehicles with lights flashing, etc.) with a lone gunslinger walking across the apotheosis of all deserts is the type of jarring scene change that makes for excellent cinemetography. Jake’s death scene would be almost like an intro, then they could cut to the scene of Roland in the desert, and superimpose the words on the screen…“the man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed.”

I am thinking maybe you and Maestro could co-direct this project, with input from the rest of us. It’s good to know there are so many as passionate as I am about these books (yes Sai Aimee, I read your posts too, may it do ya fine). Long Days and Pleasant Nights to you all

WillDearborn – August 14th, 2011
if they do make this eventually they need to get that line in somehow at the start. that first line is the greatest ive ever read!

Sam – August 14th, 2011
I for one am incredibly happy about this. I hope the project falls apart so much that king realizes, he needs a company that realizes the potential and a director that respects the story enough to not go with some haphazard edited version for the TV seasons. I once heard on an audio book that King say he hates abridged versions because they ruin the story. HBO or Starz network are the only way to go.

Jerry Grower – August 14th, 2011
@ Sam A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, the man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed, into a hole in the ground where lived a hobbit called Ishmael. Even better opening line.

Slow Mutant – August 15th, 2011
@ WillDearborn

Thank you for the compliment. I could only dream of such things as being involved in the DT universe, other than fandome. Although if i could afford to, i would fund the entire thing, direct it, and want nothing in return other than to see a true adaption take place. One that satisfies existing DT fans and expands the fan base.

@ R.F.

Yeah thanks for that, i doubt anyone would have caught on if you hadn’t pointed that out to us.

DrawnGunslinger – August 15th, 2011
@Slow Mutant now i wonder why King didnt think of that?

Sam – August 16th, 2011
Come on Ron find funding elsewhere someone out there must surely realise the potential this project holds.

DrawnGunslinger – August 20th, 2011
I am almost finished rereading the first book…I am just about to the part where Roland lets Jake die. Although I have read and reread all the other books, this is really only my second time completely through the first one.

I like it a lot more now than I did the first time I read it, but I can also see why I didn’t like it the first time. There are so many references to things that I didn’t yet know about that it was hard to follow. Nevertheless, it intrigues me…did Stephen King already have a “lineout” (outline, may it do ya) for the other books, or did he just use the first book as a basis and then follow his own references to craft them? Or does Ka really flow out of his navel like a ribbon?

My dear wife, Gan bless her, knows to not disturb me when I am reading these books. She knows I have saddled up and I am riding, for awhile, with the Gunslingers.

WillDearborn – August 20th, 2011
As my friend Aimee once told me, I belive that RH and Universal are merchents of the Crimson King, or were bought off by Sombra. I feel, like most of us “Tower Junkies” or “DT Freaks”, that HBO or Showtime would do great takeing on DT. However while we wait we still have our Books and the graphic novels.

Long Days and Pleasant Nights to ALL!!!!!!!!!!

Cuthbert Allgood – August 22nd, 2011
@ WillDearborn: King revised the 2nd edition of The Gunslinger to make that first book “belong” better. He added stuff so it would fit the scope of the rest of the tale, so that’s probably it. Personally, I do like this version a lot, and I forgot most of how the original version flowed since I’d last read that one about ten years ago. Also, King has never been big on creating outlines for his tales because he seriously perceives writing much like his own character in these DT novels - he goes with the creative flow and lets the tale tell itself through him. Of course, he admits to outlining some, but I would say it seems like he barely sketches a course compared to most other writers out there today. Pretty amazing stuff!

LD&PN

Maestro208 – August 22nd, 2011
As much as I would like to see these books adapted into films, I don’t know that I would be upset if it never happened. This book series is amazing, and I just don’t think a film version would do it justice. I’ve honestly never seen a movie version of a Stephen King novel or short story that I’ve liked (except for “The Green Mile” and “The Shawshank Redemption”). His plots are so involved and so much of the story is often told through the thoughts of characters. I think it’s difficult to put that his novels into movie form. I’ve also been highly disappointed with all of the “Harry Potter” movies. Directors often make too many changes, add extra stuff, or leave out important parts of the plot to make the movie their own. I think movie versions of The Dark Tower books would probably end up with too many creative tweaks made by whoever directs the movies, and fans of the book series will end up disappointed and angry.

Danielle – August 27th, 2011
They are filming “The Stand” in one movie. How is it possible to fit all that novel within 2-3 hours? It’s gonna bomb and then Hollywood would conclude that Stephen King is no longer viable, and really nail the coffin on Dark Tower. Unless, it’s testing the waters with “The Stand” to see the public’s reaction, which could be a way for Dark Tower to continue the story. Just a “thinny” away to Roland’s world.

Slow Mutant – August 28th, 2011
i don’t mind. as said be4 do it right or don’t even go there. and ppl harry potter got 8 full lenght movies not 7. and still they managed 2 f*** those up from part 4 and forth.

blondjuh77 – August 28th, 2011
Maybe Ka’s waiting for a better actor to come along than Javier Bardem

Ace – August 29th, 2011
Aye, and a better producer and a better director with a good vision for this tale.

Maestro208 – August 29th, 2011
well said, Maestro208. Thankee-sai. We would have a great director if we had the money and the clout to put you in that position, as I’ve said before…along with DrawnGunslinger.

WillDearborn – September 4th, 2011
Warner is way better, and I’m sure that, if Warner accepts The Dark Tower, it will be such a great movie, Harry Potter quality.

Well, Ka did a great job with Javier, I guess. Okay, he doesn’t have the iconic blue eyes, but he’s an amazing actor and I think that an Oscar is better than any blue eyes.

The big deal for me is Susannah. I don’t like her at all, but I hope start to hate her less if a good actress play her. Someone like… Berry.

Jane – September 20th, 2011
Been too long since I checked in on the path of the beam….. And I must say I feel the same as the rest, as sad as this is, its trully more of a relief then a letdown. At least we know that Universal was never going to be right for the job anyway ,if they werent comitted to an epic series that would have had to be IMO at least 5 movies (could see some of the books semi-combined) without having to leave far too much out to do this tale , which is almost akin to the Bible for some of us, any real justice. @Danielle I also agree 100% that the only King books that have been successfully translated into cimamatic works of the same quality as the original (or close enough for us die-hards) were Shawshank and Green Mile, however those two stories were much MUCH MUUUCH easier to translate to movies for more reasons then we can list . I think wed all agree, theres been many a butchered King movie (It,DreamCatcher,and many more)… even the more purely horror genre ones have been ruined when not done with the same passion King himself put into the stories. Those failures will permanently jade any SK lover as to what they might possibly do to butcher the one tale that none of us could ever stand to see torn into its only juicy bits , for the gain of some movie studios bottom line (profit). Its now very clear that RH and Uni. were not on the path of the beam at any point if they believed they could pass off any version so watered down . But I will remain optimistic, that somewhere before the clearing at the end of the path, we will all be able to see our favorite ka-tet come and go along the path in a way that trully does justice to the world already created within our minds. @Maestro208 I believe that this can be done and done well but after reading most of our thoughts on this, I do lean towards a series done on HBO/Showtime or such,only because of the simple fact that its more likely under those circumstances to not be rushed or squeezed into a space untrue to the path, but I still believe it would be a possible venture for some brave studio exec to take a chance on and still be done properly. When you refer to this tales mainstream draw, I totally understand and even partly agree with your concerns, however, if you consider the way that they will edit the previews and tv comercials for it, they can show just enough of the “juicy” stuff that mainstream viewers will crave, without taking away from what the ones who have read and loved these books already know is an amazing story that can relate to the common man in a way very few stories can, especially for a fantasy epic novel of any type. So I will hold on to the belief that if any studio is willing to put in the financial support, that the rest can work itself out should Ka will it to happen. Marketing will be the least of the problems, because I think the word of mouth after the first movie , if done the way we all know these movies must be, would be more then enough to spread the passion for this story that we all already share. I trully enjoyed the thoughts of ALL of you who care about this story the same way I do, and I hope that the best can happen(a well-done cinamtic version), but if it ends up that we only have the books, I will still say thankee-sai , because as long as we have those cherished stories at hand , we are all that much more able to try and remember to stay on the path of the beam whenever Ka wills it!! Long Days ,Pleasant Nites to all our tets

Oy420 – September 21st, 2011
@Oy420 i liked ‘it’

ps wow that must have taken a while to write!

Sam – September 21st, 2011
I listen to the audio books when I’m working at my wood lathe. The wife thinks it’s strange that I listen to nothing else but these books over and over but I love the story and I get more and more from it every them I listen. Id rather the movies never be made then have them made poorly. Remember, as fan of the books we are ALL KA-tet…..one from many.

Joe Collins – October 5th, 2011
Just finished the series for the first time today!!! Am totally obsessed, Ive been a long time Star Wars EU junky but now the DT stands right next to SW in my mind.

Longing for HBO to do this, I am a huge Game of Thrones fan so much so taht I will not read the books not because I dont want to spoil the amazing experience watching it, not to mention Trueblood and Boardwalk are awesome, if there is anyone that can put the DT properly on tv/movies it would be HBO, they could do it right with 4-6 seasons. Lets all keep our fingers crossed and remember the face of our fathers if ka wills it so.

Steve – October 5th, 2011
@Steve

Nice post and welcome to the DT world! :) On your Game of Thrones decision. The books (so far anyways) are amazing. Just read each book after each season until they decide to stop making them (lets hope they don’t stop)

Jordan – October 12th, 2011
Javier is going to be the new bad guy in 007, which should be pretty sweet. Hopefully, with Universal quitting on DT & with Javier signing up for James Bond, this means he has also officially given up on DT as well and will no longer be playing Roland. I really like him as an actor but as hard as i have tried i just can’t see Roland in Javier Bardem. Good luck Javier!

Aloenam – October 12th, 2011
At the moment it just seems like the movie company’s are wasting film resources on utter drivel that’s being spewed onto the big screen. But never fear guys and girls, eventually someone will see the light and think “why the hell didn’t we do this sooner” and crack on with it. I empathize with Ron Howard and Universal though as it would have been a big financial risk putting all that money into a first film only to have it flop at the box office. But still at the end of the day it is a risky business.

I mean jeez, if they can make 7 Harry Potter Books onto 7 movies, why cant they make an even more epic 7 film series? The answer? Its the dark tower fan base (which is sadly rather small for such an awesome saga) and the worry that there wouldn’t be enough public interest to sustain 7 movies. This is due to the series not being as widely known as it should be. But as people have said before me, its only a matter of time before the hands of writers and directors start getting clammy because they are running out of movie options. And when that happens, the Dark Tower will be waiting.

Dr Jones – October 12th, 2011
I personally, am glad. I will admit that there are several movies out there that are better than the books, but Dark Tower would not be one of them. Let’s hope this never happens. The book series was phenomenal and Hollywood would find someway to mess it up, and leave a bad taste in my, and many other Dark Tower fans’ mouths.

Joshua – October 13th, 2011
@Dr Jones, or we tell as many people as possible about the books, even strangers in the street and we are bound to get some more people reading it and as book sales go up maybe film people will notice :) on second thoughts maybe it would be a bit wierd just to go up to someone

also this could take some time

Sam – October 13th, 2011
@ Sam, your right that’s how i discovered the Dark Tower. I was told about the books and how vivid and incredibly gripping they were, that’s why i started reading them. Maybe the advertisement of the knew book “The Wind Through The Keyhole” (if advertised properly) will attract more attention. Though many people these days would rather watch a movie than read a book, which to be honest sucks. But hey, if someone makes a movie and it does well maybe more people will be curious and seek out the books and in turn the fan base will increase and the call for more films with it. If they do make a movie though I do agree with Joshua as there is a big possibility Hollywood could screw it up.

Dr Jones – October 14th, 2011
A most interesting discussion on here, been reading it for a while. Some thought from me on all that: (a) SK movies: Someone wrote that only Shawshank and the incredible tearjerker Green Mile were great movies based on SK books. Hello?? Misery? The Mist?? Stand the best ever made SK film by me??? So I see it as a 50/50 possibilty that a DT-movie could get a good one. (b) I was soo excited when I heard the announcement of a big screen adaptation - but at the same time as everyone else felt almost fear they could ruin the books and the reputation of the DT-series with doing it wrong. So the news that it is cancelled so far is something I can live with. Would love to see it in cinemas one day, but I can wait. (c) Although I love the mentioned TV shows on HBO I can’t really see DT as a TV show. I thought the combination idea cinema/TV was a great thought… (d) Regarding the discussion a few posts above why the studios do not make a 7-movie-epic-series of it: In this particular post DT was combined with Harry Potter - it is just simple math: If you do make DT a movie series that is not suitable for kids (and I bet no-one would like to see DT being a unrated series) they will never reach a audience only half as big as HP - it’s success was mostly based on kids and their parents! Remember the “HP-“riots” on days of book-releases or movie-premieres? I really do not see anything like this happening with a DT-release (thank god, err, I mean, thank KA!).

NickGermany – October 17th, 2011
The thought of seeing DT as a tv-series on any other channel than HBO really frightens me. I honestly think HBO would be the only way not to screw up the books if the plans on making a tv-series adaption sticks.

Imagine a series as well adapted as Game of Thrones. THAT would be something worth waiting for.

For the moment it looks pretty bad for the DT movies/series, but who knows, maybe we’ll be pleasantly surprised before we know it… Remember “Ka like the wind”.

Dida-chick? – October 19th, 2011
You know, it just occurred to me that this article SHOULD have been titled “ Universal cries off the Dark Tower.” ……..just sayin

Joe Collins – October 23rd, 2011
ill cry, a lot if this is canned before it even happens - sniff sniff

MArio – October 25th, 2011
GUYS AND GALS ITS NOT OVER!! According to a recent interview with producer Brian Grazer the dark tower project is still on track! They’ve managed to shave $45-50 million off the original project cost, making it more appealing. For more info check out: http://moviesblog.mtv.com http://www.totalfilm.com among other websites. Its totally legit!

Dr Jones – October 26th, 2011
Hile to all, I’m back from todash and all I can convey is WHAT A TRIP!! I suggest everyone take a vacation there. Just found out that the TV series part of DT might possibly be going to HBO. I’m not subscribed to it, but if all this works out (there be water if Ka wills it) looks like I’ll be tuned in. Nice to hear some positive info about our fav gunslinger, his ka-tet and the crimson king. More palaver to come. LD&PN

GUNSLINGER19 – October 27th, 2011
http://www.hitfix.com/articles/the-dark-tower-tv-adaptation-rising-at-hbo

I guess someone else needs to take over updating the articles on this blog.

Im confident HBO can and will do this project with the accuracy and care we all expect. No sleep til Discordia.

Restaurant of the Mind – October 27th, 2011
It is good to hear that they have shaved down the budget, but after all the letdowns, I refuse to let my hopes get too high. I think HBO would be perfect for the television. With HBO handling the project it can provide us with more of the risky content. Still, I will not get my hopes up too high. @Gunslinger19 Hile, and it is good to see you on here again. Dida-Chick said it best. Ka is like the wind.

Aimee – October 28th, 2011
@Restaurant of the Mind I agree someone should be updating this site regularly.

Aimee – October 28th, 2011
Hi DT fans :)

I have been reading all the comments and it feels great to be a part of a community of passionate Dark Tower fans! I am on my second read through of the series and just can’t get enough of it’s visceral world. Whenever I read DT, it feels like coming home, and I’m sure you know what I mean. I really hope that they do make some movies to do it justice. I work at a visual effects company as a compositor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing), and it would be a dream come true to one day work on the Dark Tower movies! I think I would cry of happiness :). I’m going to start listening to the audio books tomorrow while I work!

Long days and pleasant nights :)

Oy19 – October 30th, 2011
Hile OY19, and welcome. I also feel this is a group of passionate DT junkies. It is kind of sad that the site has fallen behind on update info, but I still enjoy coming here to palaver with like kinds. More a ka-tet of good fans than anything. I guess we’ll just have to keep the updates flowing from all of us. More palaver later and, as always, Long Days and Pleasant nights. HAPPY HALLOWEEN YOU JUNKIES.lol

GUNSLINGER19 – October 31st, 2011
Of the subject of DT, i would like to recommend a non DT/SK book to anyone who has not read it. its actually a series (two books with a few related books) theyre called The Forever War, Forever Free (which are the best ones) and one of the related books is called Forever Peace, i forget the rest. anyway theyre by Joe Haldeman and apart from the DT obviously they may be my favourite books ever. just saying….

Sam – November 1st, 2011
@Sam, I will add them to my reading list. I love getting new book recommendations, and love hearing about authors I have not read. Thanks :)

Aimee – November 2nd, 2011
Possible HBO adaptation: http://uk.tv.ign.com/articles/121/1210631p1.html

Nick – November 2nd, 2011
There is hope after all. Wonderful stuff.

DrawnGunslinger – November 5th, 2011
Is an amazing reach into SK mind …. am into book 5 … (we work alone and recommend books) … finding it hard to promote this work (even though I love it) … my friends still see SK as a horror writer … as I did past ! .. I am sure the Dark Tower will rise to every success ! and rightly so ! …. me thinks “oi” and the boy Chris will go further ? …

Mike – November 16th, 2011
Am I the only one, or does this site reeeally need an update. I mean, the news about HBO taking over the series came out, what.. Nearly 2 months ago… So I really think that should be worth writing an article about.

Although the news it self isn’t that much to start an article, all these comments should do the rest of the writing. No pressure, it’s just a thought.

I really am looking forward to seeing this piece of magic turn into a series, it’ll be plain awesomness from the beginning to the end.

It’s not often I dream of a carreer as an actor, but to participate in the making of DT would be more than a dream come true…

Bumbler19 – December 3rd, 2011
Screw Universal… it’s time to make our own action packed series with our new iPhone 4s’s. It’ll be a great YouTube challenge. I get the part of Oy anybody else? anybody?

Ka Rides a Unicorn lml – December 12th, 2011
In case someone missed it, here’s the excerpt from the wind through the keyhole:

http://www.tor.com/stories/2011/12/the-dark-tower-the-wind-through-the-keyhole-excerpt

Can’t wait for it to be released, these two chapters really do give the impression it’s going to be an awesome addition to the series! I’m just giving the series my first readthrough. At the moment i’m halfway through song of susannah, which for some reason I’m finding a little boring.. So hopefully this one wont be as dull as SoS and instead be an awesome addition to the adventure!

Oh Discordia, only two more months to wait!

Dida-chick? – December 25th, 2011
New Headline- “Mike Quits the Dark Tower Blog”

Mike, could you please put down the Twilight movies and update the blog? We are worried about you.
Sincerely, Constant Readers.
Restaurant of the Mind – December 28th, 2011
No kidding… You know its gotten bad when fans resort to posting links to new information on DT before the guy in charge of the blog can get around to it. Thanks for the posts Ka-Mates.

Aloenam – December 29th, 2011
Maybe he reached the clearing at the end of his path?

DrawnGunslinger – January 8th, 2012
C’mon mike, i find myself returning to this site almost daily.. Without the satisfaction of finding a new update.. Stop being todash and return to us will you?

Dida-chick? – January 11th, 2012
Yes, I end up coming here almost daily as well, at least for weeks-long phases.

Like it or not, you have readers.

Nick – January 11th, 2012
Here here Universal!!!….that’s what we want in our movies!…practical budgets!….that’s what I look for when I choose a movie! (Eddie’s sarcastic attitude inserted here.) It does explain a lot to me though, the re-release of the Star Wars series in 3-D, the remake of Footloose, the small screen to big screen Movies ala Sex in the City movies…. You have an opportunity to make the great art of a well told story and you pass…amazing stories you didn’t pass on in the past couple of years??….MacGruber, Johnny English Reborn, Death Race 2…..really? Shame! They will see my disappointment in their bank account from me…seems the only thing they care about! Please join me…pass on all Universal movies this summer!!! How much can you be missing out on really? MacGruber Reborn?….Nanny McPhee the Trilogy?….

The Eld – March 4th, 2012
Hugh Laurie needs to play Roland. Those bombardier’s eyes! That rugged skin! How is this not a thing?

rheumy – August 10th, 2012
There will be water if God wills it , if your a Stephen king fan at lest get it right. ( And no I’m not a bible thumpers but it pisses me off when people spout rederic about shit they know little about. Fact check be for you quote) that being said I agree with the self proclaimed dark tower fan that can’t get one of Rolands favorite quotes right , do it right or don’t do it at all. I hate the idea that it’ll never make it to the big screen but if they were to f it up like the Harry potter series (they took out every thing that made the story’s fun and funny leaving what was more like a quick summery of the movie is all the director ever read) if your not willing to sit down and read the whole 7 books ( 8 now with the addition of the wind though the keyhole) don’t bother.

Jeremiah – September 14th, 2014